EP 55: Entrepreneur Inspiration - Cesar Hernandez on Building Brands with PR Artwork

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EP 55: Entrepreneur Inspiration - Cesar Hernandez on Building Brands with PR

April 15, 2024 • Owwll App/Jason Hill • Season 1 • Episode 55

Cesar Hernandez is the managing director and founder of Omni Public, a distinguished public relations and public affairs firm. Originally from Brooklyn, New York, Cesar has established a notable career specializing in introducing innovative concepts and ideas into the marketplace. He's collaborated with high-profile clients like Tesla, Uber, and Bird Rides, navigating the complex intersections of media, government, and industry. His future endeavors are focused on leveraging his extensive experience to continue transforming society positively.

Host Jason Hill and co-host Ellie Santra build a riveting discussion with Cesar Hernandez about the evolution and inner workings of public relations within the tech and startup landscapes. This episode unpacks Cesar's journey from his roots in Brooklyn to becoming a PR mogul, touching upon key projects with Tesla and Bird Rides, and his passion for innovative public affairs strategies. The conversation also explores the Owwll App's role in connecting professionals through its unique platform, emphasizing the app's influence on professional networking and personal development.

This episode is a goldmine for entrepreneurs, PR professionals, and anyone interested in media strategies and professional growth. Learn about the intricacies of public relations from a seasoned expert and discover how strategic communication can propel your projects forward. For those interested in expanding their professional network, the Owwll App provides a robust platform for connecting with industry leaders and experts at the tap of a button. Enhance your understanding of public relations and its impact on various industries by tuning into this insightful discussion.

Connect with Cesar: HERE

Questions That This Episode Answers:
1. "What are effective PR strategies for startups to gain media exposure?"
2. "How can entrepreneurs leverage public relations to accelerate business growth?"
3. "What role does PR play in building a startup's brand and credibility?"

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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome to the OWWLL podcast.

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And I have another exciting

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episode here with Cesar in a moment.

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But before we jump in,

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remember that we are doing

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the 30-day hard challenge with OWL.

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We have over 30 people that

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have joined this to build OWL.

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You know,

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a better lifestyle for themselves

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and to create better habits

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in their life.

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And they are making

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themselves available on the

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owl app because they have

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to make a call every single

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day to a different person

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for 30 days straight.

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So it's a great opportunity

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if you're out there listening.

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So make yourself available

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and take a call from one of

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these other professionals.

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And every week we're joined

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by different CEOs, entrepreneurs,

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influencers,

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and celebrities that are

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making an impact to this world.

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So this is your first time tuning in.

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We come live on all of our

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accounts at owl app.

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So make sure to follow us so

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you could be in the know

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when we have all these

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amazing guests that join us.

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And one of my tips of the

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day is to follow these

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guests on the Owl app

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because when they make

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themselves available,

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you'll get that opportunity

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to call them at $1 because

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they can't change their

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price until they get up to 10 calls.

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And a lot of our guests are

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going to change their price

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from $1 to probably $20 to

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$100 to get in contact with them.

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So that's my tip of the day.

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Ellie, what is your tip of the day?

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Drink more water.

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Drink more water.

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Drink more water.

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That is true.

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I feel a lot better after

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drinking a lot of water.

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Yeah.

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But if you want an owl tip.

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Not good for podcasting though.

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Yeah, no.

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Because half the time I've

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been doing these shows,

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I feel like I'm like, oh no,

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at the 30 minute mark and I

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have to go pee.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Owl tip.

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I have so many owl tips.

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Oh, I have one.

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So when basically the follow button,

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I feel like a lot of people

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don't utilize the follow

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button enough and they

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don't really know what it's for.

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It's not like Instagram

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where you follow someone

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and then you can see what they're doing.

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Essentially how it works is

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if there is an individual

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on the app that you are

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really interested in speaking to,

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with and they are not live

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when you are on there.

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If you follow them,

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then you will get a

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notification when they do

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go live so that you can get

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a chance to speak with them.

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And under the follow button,

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there is a little check mark,

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I guess that's how you would describe it,

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a little button underneath of it,

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very tiny, that

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If you click on that,

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you can choose if you want

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to follow someone with

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notifications or without.

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So that just making sure

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that if everyone you follow,

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if you don't want to be

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annoyed every time someone goes live.

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Someone like me goes live every day.

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So you do not want to get a

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notification every day if

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you've already spoken to me.

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Right.

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Of course, you change that setting.

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You can change the setting

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and then you can, you know,

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still follow them without

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getting notified.

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So, yeah.

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Well, let's get into our guest today.

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You know,

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we have someone from my neck of

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the woods from New York

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that moved down here.

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He's originally from Brooklyn.

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And I spent about 10 years

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in Long Island City, Queens,

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next door to him, of course.

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And Cesar does a lot in the PR world.

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So we're excited to have you

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on the show today.

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Cesar, for our audience listening,

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tell everyone a little bit

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about yourself and what you

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do in the PR space.

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Absolutely.

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So my name is Cesar Hernandez.

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I am the managing director and founder of

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Omni Public,

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and we are a full suite public affairs,

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public relations firms.

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That's really just, you know,

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speak for I'm a publicist

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and I'm a lobbyist and I

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specialize in introducing

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new concepts and ideas into

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the marketplace.

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And we navigate media,

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government and industry.

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Been very fortunate to work

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with companies such as Tesla, Hyperloop,

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Uber, Bird Rides, Porsche, Ford Mobility.

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At this point in my career,

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over 350 startups, universities,

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public officials,

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people running for school board,

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people running for Congress,

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people running for president.

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And I'm obsessed.

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I'm obsessed with consulting.

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I love what I do.

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I think that I am living the

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dream legitimately.

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And I want to work with good

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people that are looking to

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transform society for good.

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So give us a real example, right?

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Owl's a startup, right?

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I come to you, what happens?

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Or tell us a past company, you know,

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that you worked with.

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And like, how does this really start?

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Where we all...

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We want more eyeballs on our website.

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We want more eyeballs on social media.

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We want to get into Forbes.

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We want to be entrepreneur of the year,

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maybe, right?

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We want to be at TEDx talks

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and get on a stage.

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We want to be book authors, right?

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Because all this drives

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traffic back to our brand

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and helps us build a better community,

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helps hiring people because

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they want to be part of that brand,

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for example.

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Like we partner with Celsius Beverage.

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I've never seen so many

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individuals want to work

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for my brand in my life.

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Right.

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You know,

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it's shooting fish in a barrel

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for them when it comes to

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hiring because people have

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fall fallen in love with the brand.

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Right.

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So explain to me kind of

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that startup comes to you like,

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what do you do next?

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Sure.

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So I'll give two examples

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and then I will give the

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learnings from those examples.

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Right.

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First example,

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just because it's a common

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name right now is Tesla.

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Right.

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So work with them around 2016, 2017.

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And initially,

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where was Tesla at that point?

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People thought that that was

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going to be a battery company.

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They thought that they

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weren't going to roll out

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the S. The X was a dream

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and they were just going to

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shut her up and just be an OEM company.

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Now, I was on the team at that time.

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I was working for a

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government agency to

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produce what's called

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public-private partnerships,

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and they wanted to compete

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with Uber initially.

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Tesla wanted to see if the

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Model S or X can run 24

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hours and create the Tesla network,

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which would then go autopilot,

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and now you would have

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essentially autonomous driving ride share.

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And the vision was... And

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I've seen that in certain cities.

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I've been to Phoenix and I

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saw it in Phoenix.

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It was wild.

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This is where I'm headed towards.

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And the idea was if I buy a Tesla,

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I can go home

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And when I'm hanging out at home,

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my Tesla can leave and go pick people up.

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Sign me up.

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And then come back.

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And I just made passive income.

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Yeah.

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However, before you did that,

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you had to see if there was a use case.

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So we attempted it and we

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created something called

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hyperlink in Tampa Bay where you

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A Tesla would pick you up in

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like a rideshare fashion

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and connect you to either

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an existing like

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transportation network or

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to where your location is at.

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Right.

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And it was it was successful.

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It increased ridership for

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the transportation agency

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around 80 percent.

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But the learnings from that was, hey,

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we don't want to go into rideshare.

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But our vehicles,

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because we did a data share agreement,

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can run in that fashion.

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So if you've ever went to

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New York City and rode Rebel,

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if you ever took Uber in

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Europe and a Tesla picked you up,

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or even now in Tampa,

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something called Dash,

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it was my initial project

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that I worked with them,

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that data share that was

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given to produce Uber.

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Now,

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these future transportation network

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companies, and this is in 2016, 2017.

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Yeah, a lot earlier on.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Second one is Bird Rides for

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the scooter company, right?

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Micromobility.

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They needed to deploy them

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across the Southeast United

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States because it's warmer, warmer

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climate.

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And they just raised a ton of money.

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They were fastest billion

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dollar valuated company in

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American history,

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seven months to a billion

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dollar valuation.

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And we helped.

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There were scooters everywhere.

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I'm like,

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there's too many of these things.

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They were dumped everywhere

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in Austin when I visited, of course.

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And so we worked to launch a

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public affairs campaign

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you know, did a communication strategy,

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a lobbying strategy and

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pulled it together and

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which I'm going to share.

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How do you do that to then

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create the very first micro

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mobility systems across the

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Southeast United States?

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Now they sense kind of retracted, right?

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They're no longer my client,

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but these are the things

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that we've been able to do

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these strategies, right?

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And so how do you do that?

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Cause these are big names,

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but you got to remember

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when I initially began to work with them,

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They weren't.

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They were just, you know,

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starting up startups.

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So if you're if you're a star,

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we've got to think about three things.

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Right.

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And this is an arena called

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non-market strategy and all

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non-market strategy means

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it's something that's going

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to impact your widget that

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has nothing to do with the

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creation of your widget policy, politics,

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community, charter, public opinion,

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et cetera, et cetera.

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So if you're a startup, number one,

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you need credibility.

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Right.

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Oh, but I can't hire a PR firm.

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Right.

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I can't.

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You don't need that.

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You're the first piece of PR.

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LinkedIn, LinkedIn newsletters,

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landing pages, landing sites.

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Here's a huge takeaway is

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purchase your domain name,

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Jane Doe dot com.

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put on a landing page,

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list all your articles,

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list the blog posts, right?

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I got to do that actually.

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Surprisingly,

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I got so many darn websites

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because I got the Shrimp Tank,

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the Owl Podcast, you know,

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Financial Service one,

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but I don't have one that's

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just the Jason R. Hill.

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And the reason why I went

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the Jason R. Hill is

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because all the other Jason

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R. Hill was taken, of course.

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I have a very common name.

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And I've done that on socials,

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but I haven't actually just

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done my own website yet.

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So it's a great idea.

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You need it for SEO.

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You need it for SEO,

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but here's another reason, right?

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On the opposite end,

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say you land in a Forbes.

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So say maybe you got a $10

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million investment or any

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investment and you land in

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a major publication.

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There are some bad actors

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out there and they're going

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to research JaneDoe.com.

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And they'll purchase that

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domain if it's not taken.

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And then maybe they put a

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landing page to say Jane does a scam.

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Jane does companies a scam dot com.

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Link it to a dark site.

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And now when you Google

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search Forbes ranks and

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then here's this other

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landing page and then you

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go to them and say, hey,

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can you take that down?

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They're like, sure.

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One hundred thousand dollars.

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This happens all the time.

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So this is how I consult for

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my clients because I seen

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it all the time when they

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would attack the companies

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that I would represent.

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So the best form of offense

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initially having a good defense.

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So creating your own content.

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purchasing your own landing

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page so that nobody can

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attack you right so first

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thing is you're your own

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content number two don't

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get caught up in I need

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forbes I need tech crunch I

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need etc yeah look at your

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local journal right so if

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you're in tech and you're

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in south florida look at

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refresh miami or look at

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south florida business

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journals right they have miami inno

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And reach out to the reporter.

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Don't pitch stories.

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Pitch relationships.

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Hey, I don't have a story for you.

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I have a tech company or I

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have company angst.

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I noticed that you write about it.

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Can we grab coffee?

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If they don't respond, they host events.

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Go to the event.

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Hey, love your talk.

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Can we grab coffee?

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Cultivate a relationship locally first,

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right?

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And then the last thing is look at

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credible actors that may

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influence the audience that

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can potentially be your consumers,

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like podcasts, et cetera,

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because you want

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individuals to magnify you.

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Maybe they're a LinkedIn influencer,

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maybe they're a podcaster,

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and you rinse and repeat that monthly.

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I love the point with Refresh Miami,

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for example,

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because they put on so many

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darn events and no one

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realizes you could just go

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to them and meet the

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executives that run it.

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They go to probably half the

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events that they put on.

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And I went to one down in

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Brickell recently.

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And I shook their hand.

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I'm like, come on the owl podcast.

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And they're like, sure,

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this looks awesome.

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So it was that easy.

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But but it wasn't a pitch.

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It was a give.

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And I think that's the

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mistakes too often that

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startup founders make.

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They're in love with their

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brand and they think others

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will immediately like resonate with it.

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and wanna share their

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journey and their story,

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but that's not the case, right?

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Like OWL is really cool and all, right?

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You saw it, but like journalists,

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they see the stuff all the

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time and they wanna pitch

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the person behind OWL and

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they wanna get to know the person.

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So I love that point about

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building relationships to start out with.

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before jumping the gun.

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And I see Ellie doing that all the time,

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right?

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She's a musician.

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She goes to a lot of events,

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but it starts with the

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relationship side first.

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And then eventually like, Hey,

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what else is behind Ellie?

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And then it opens up doors.

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Do you agree, Ellie?

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Yeah.

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I use owl as my get in the

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door all the time.

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And then, Oh, I'm also a musician.

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Oh,

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do you want me to perform at your

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corporate event?

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Oh, no.

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And even as a musician is music reporters.

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Reach out to them, grab coffee,

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invite them out to your gigs.

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This doesn't exclusively work for tech.

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This exclusively works as a

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communication strategy.

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Well, and I like, yeah,

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just your idea of actually

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going in person because

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think about how many DMs

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and messages and emails and

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you're just another number,

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another person in their inbox.

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So like actually taking the

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time and making the effort

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to show up at their event

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already gives you more

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credit than everyone else.

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That's how I cultivated most

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of my relationships with

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reporters is I met them in person.

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Right.

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Yeah, I would see.

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We just started work doing

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work maybe three years ago

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in South Florida.

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First thing I did was to get

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an audience with the

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publisher of the South

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Florida Business Journal.

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going to their events

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cultivating a relationship

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before I made any asks

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talking to the reporter

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what are things that you

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like to talk about right

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because very early on

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irrespective of your

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industry you have to make a

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decision if you're going to

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be someone who's

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relationship driven or

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transactional it's not to

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say that one is better than

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the other one but just

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abide by the rules of

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Am I just looking for transactional stuff?

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Do I just want to buy ads or

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do I want to cultivate a relationship?

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Right.

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And have a longstanding

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relationship because reporter,

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it could be a reporter today,

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an editor the next day,

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a president or a publisher the next day.

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For example,

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Refresh Miami gets picked up a lot by,

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say, Florida Trend and the Miami Herald.

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Right.

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One of the editors there is

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an editor for Refresh and

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also for Florida Trend.

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So they're scouting like, oh,

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maybe this will work for this.

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Maybe this will work for this.

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Right.

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So just be always be

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cognizant as to like the

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audience and who you're

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speaking to and really try

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to generate relationships

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because that's a long term strategy.

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let's dive into pr a tad

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deeper now so often I see

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entrepreneurs getting

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frustrated with with some

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pr firms right because some

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are excellent and some you

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know you end up paying a

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lot per month and then they

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they have false promises

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right like hey one day I'm

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going to get you into these

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publications and it just

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needs more time and and

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then it just never it never

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happens and people get

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really really frustrated

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and there's others that

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that do an amazing job right so

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Kind of share with our

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audience kind of what makes

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your firm unique, right?

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Like you have these relationships.

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So do you have ties to so

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many different people from

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doing it for so long that

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they have ingrained your trust?

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So that way when you position a client,

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pretty much, you know,

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the door is there and they

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trust that it's a good relationship.

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Like I have someone that

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gets people on local news all the time.

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I see her clients and I'm like, oh,

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there's another one on local news.

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And they love her because

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she brings such good quality

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to the local news station

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and they don't have to

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worry about that person

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that's being interviewed

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isn't a good public speaker, for example.

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Like she knows who to put on

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the show and who not to put on the show.

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They send us clients, of course,

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because through our podcast,

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it's another avenue to get good film,

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right?

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There's lots of different

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types of podcasts out there

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and some do a very crappy job, right?

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The film afterwards is not

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that good where one in here,

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as an example, we've got great lighting,

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we have a great camera.

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Right.

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So the PR folks know that.

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So kind of explain to our audience, like,

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you know,

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where's your niche in this space?

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What makes you one of the

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best PR firms out there, I guess?

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Yeah, I'll answer it in two ways.

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Right.

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The first thing is just a

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state of the industry.

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OK.

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Right.

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And so I don't want to shame

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all agencies because.

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The reality is that

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professional service firms

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and especially public affairs,

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it's difficult.

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Here's why it's difficult.

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Our widget is knowledge and strategy.

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That's the widget.

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Now,

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what is the variable that impacts that

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widget?

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Another individual.

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So even if I have a great

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relationship and they're my buddy,

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and maybe out of a hundred,

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I get 99 in, but then my buddy's like,

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I can't do this one.

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And that's like my friend friend, right?

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That's like, hey,

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I've been working with you for 10 years.

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It happens.

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So there is a challenge in that industry.

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And so you have to be a

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little bit patient.

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But in that patience,

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the best way to see the

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value of an agency is, hey,

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show me what you did last week.

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Show me who you landed last week.

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Like I could tell you on a given day,

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right?

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I had clients on NASDAQ News

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drop last week.

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I had a client drop in Forbes yesterday,

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right?

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I had somebody go on a Hard

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Knocks podcast two days ago, right?

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So it's, don't show me the highlight reel.

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Numbers don't lie.

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Yeah, don't show me the highlight reel.

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Show me what you did this week.

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And so when people talk to me,

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I go into my DMs.

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I go into my inbox.

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I've just gotten to a

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position where now I've

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been very grateful enough

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that editors reach out to

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me and they're like, Hey,

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who do you have?

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Hey, I'm a producer.

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I'm an EP at this.

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Who can we run?

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Right.

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So,

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which is a perfect segue as to what the

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differentiator is with my firm.

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Right.

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So I present my firm as a PR

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and lobbying firm.

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The reality is,

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is that I focus on what I detailed prior,

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which was non-market strategy.

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I'm more of a strategist and

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I use leverage points to

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get the objective and

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that's to shift public

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opinion in the favor of my clients.

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And that's a part of a much

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broader discipline called

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systempreneurship.

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And for the uninitiated, what that is,

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is systempreneurship is

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being able to move multiple

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systems in a direction of an objective,

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irrespective of them working together.

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What did I just say?

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Okay.

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Say I have a widget.

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It's the first time I've

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heard systempreneurship.

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I've heard a lot of things.

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I've interviewed 350 entrepreneurs.

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I've heard like mamapreneur, sidepreneur.

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I've never heard systempreneur.

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That's a good one.

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I feel like that resonates with me.

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Did you trademark this?

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No.

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I wish I could take

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the credit but it's actually

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a growing practice out of

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the Oxford University where

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it's an evolution of

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systems thinking where

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system thinking maps out

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systempreneurship maps out

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and actually performs right

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um and so but that's that's

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my consulting arena so where other

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PR practices are thinking about, hey,

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let me just get a story,

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see what happens.

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I'm looking at how can I get the story?

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How can I magnify the story?

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How can I move this audience?

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Right.

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And how can I get the client's objectives?

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So my differentiator is that

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I'm more of a strategist

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and my expertise is

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consulting and I understand

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enterprise and business.

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You're sitting around the corner.

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Right.

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Too often entrepreneurs see

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the transaction is like,

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if I get into Forbes,

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something will happen.

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And you're saying you're like,

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I'll get you into Forbes.

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But then what do we do after that?

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How do we expose that

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article to maximize it,

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to benefit the startup that

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you're operating,

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to have exponential growth?

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like Bird did, right?

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Like, because, you know,

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everyone has a great idea.

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A lot of times they're

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solving a problem with that idea,

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but there's too much noise out there,

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right?

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There's a gazillion startups,

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there's a gazillion podcasts,

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there's a gazillion, you know,

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posts going out every single day.

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So you have to be really

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unique with that strategy

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is what I'm hearing.

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And the value of relationships,

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which is what our platform's all about,

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is you have so many

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relationships that you've built

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know through new york those

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days moving down to south

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florida traveling

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throughout the world and

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pretty much those

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relationships really value

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your opinion so that way

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when you reach out to them

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with a client say hey you

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know here's a client you

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know is there an

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opportunity for them they

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take it very very serious

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because your data supports

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that you know you've done

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it you know it's not you're

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not winging this thing

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right and and that's what

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I'm hearing is the power of

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relationships yeah so

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I'll give a really brief example.

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We were working with a

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crypto fund out of Miami, right?

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Which is the whole thing like, oh, my God,

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a crypto fund out of Miami.

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But how did I differentiate them?

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Right.

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First of all,

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the founder was not from Miami.

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So automatically, right,

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people are adverse.

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They're like, oh,

00:21:51.964 --> 00:21:52.744
you just moved down here.

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You got a crypto fund.

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I'm supposed to give you $100 million.

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Got it.

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Brought us on board.

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So, yeah, we did the Forbes Inc.

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Entrepreneurs because those

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are hard credibility indicators.

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We did Refresh, Biz Journal, Herald,

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Florida Trend.

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Now I'm talking to the audience.

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But then the next thing that

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we did is we got him on the

00:22:11.358 --> 00:22:13.480
podcast with Mayor Suarez.

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So how many funds are out there?

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A lot.

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How many are getting covered nationally?

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Maybe half.

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How many are also covered locally?

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Maybe another third.

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How many of them are talking to a mayor?

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And then when we did the

00:22:27.682 --> 00:22:28.962
launch of the office,

00:22:29.443 --> 00:22:30.943
we had the mayor there.

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We had a federal

00:22:32.865 --> 00:22:34.665
congressional member there,

00:22:35.165 --> 00:22:37.406
a state senator there, a state rep there.

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And

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By them being there,

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not only did we have them

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do a ribbon cutting, they did a panel.

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I chopped up the panel into reels,

00:22:45.451 --> 00:22:47.590
and that's super credibility.

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Now I've just navigated politics,

00:22:51.471 --> 00:22:54.232
government, three levels of government,

00:22:54.673 --> 00:22:56.173
the media, right,

00:22:56.532 --> 00:22:57.874
and other credible actors,

00:22:58.493 --> 00:23:00.334
and the $100 million fund

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coincidentally turned into

00:23:01.795 --> 00:23:02.194
a $150 million fund.

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Because when there was any rebuttals, oh,

00:23:06.132 --> 00:23:06.832
I don't know if I should,

00:23:07.232 --> 00:23:08.433
if I'm an accredited investor,

00:23:08.673 --> 00:23:09.836
why should I give you 100K

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as opposed to the other

00:23:11.477 --> 00:23:13.058
fund down the block in Brickell?

00:23:13.660 --> 00:23:15.541
Oh, Forbes, Inc., entrepreneur,

00:23:15.761 --> 00:23:17.284
congressional members, right?

00:23:17.723 --> 00:23:20.426
Members of the cabinet, the mayor.

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I think I can trust you.

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Trust.

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Absolutely.

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I'm curious.

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Um,

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obviously you have a lot of knowledge

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you're showing us that.

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Um,

00:23:29.888 --> 00:23:32.289
but how did you decide to make the jump

00:23:32.349 --> 00:23:34.351
to create your own company?

00:23:35.211 --> 00:23:36.510
Like when did that decision

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happen and what was that experience like?

00:23:39.392 --> 00:23:40.913
That's a really good question.

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Uh,

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And here's the reason why,

00:23:44.659 --> 00:23:46.221
is that the vision of my

00:23:46.300 --> 00:23:48.282
company is to represent the

00:23:48.343 --> 00:23:49.443
brightest minds in the

00:23:49.503 --> 00:23:51.986
world and transform society for good,

00:23:52.586 --> 00:23:52.846
right?

00:23:53.268 --> 00:23:55.190
So lobbyist is like an icky

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connotation to it.

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Yeah.

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I was literally thinking

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that when you said that.

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I was like, oh, lobbyist.

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But that's why I say PR.

00:24:01.375 --> 00:24:02.217
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:02.237 --> 00:24:03.438
I say public affairs, right?

00:24:03.597 --> 00:24:05.098
Because they're like, well, what is that?

00:24:05.220 --> 00:24:06.320
But the reality is I'm a lobbyist.

00:24:06.820 --> 00:24:08.882
But I specialize in two things, right,

00:24:08.961 --> 00:24:09.781
in government relations,

00:24:09.821 --> 00:24:10.923
and that is procurement,

00:24:10.962 --> 00:24:12.002
which means B to G,

00:24:12.042 --> 00:24:13.443
like how to get your tech

00:24:13.483 --> 00:24:14.284
company to work with

00:24:14.344 --> 00:24:16.204
government or procurement.

00:24:16.305 --> 00:24:17.365
If you're a nonprofit,

00:24:17.424 --> 00:24:19.445
how can you then apply for

00:24:19.965 --> 00:24:20.886
grants through the

00:24:20.946 --> 00:24:21.886
government or get funded

00:24:21.926 --> 00:24:22.688
through the government?

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And the reason why I decided

00:24:24.428 --> 00:24:25.848
to start my own shop was

00:24:25.888 --> 00:24:27.789
because if I would have joined a firm,

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They will give me the clients.

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So there's no sieve.

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There's nothing to say,

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I don't feel comfortable

00:24:35.454 --> 00:24:36.615
with this project.

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Maybe I don't want to go

00:24:37.955 --> 00:24:40.038
after this grant to fund this.

00:24:40.577 --> 00:24:42.439
Maybe I don't believe in this.

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I would have zero say.

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It's, hey,

00:24:45.882 --> 00:24:47.122
you're going to go increase

00:24:47.182 --> 00:24:48.163
payday loan rates.

00:24:49.384 --> 00:24:50.525
And you're going to pay a lot of money.

00:24:50.964 --> 00:24:52.425
And this is the objective to move.

00:24:52.987 --> 00:24:54.107
And so I just wanted to

00:24:54.208 --> 00:24:56.690
yield and use my powers for

00:24:56.789 --> 00:24:58.691
good and really look at the

00:24:58.730 --> 00:24:59.852
kind of people that I work

00:24:59.912 --> 00:25:01.173
with and then make a

00:25:01.232 --> 00:25:02.374
decision as to whether or

00:25:02.413 --> 00:25:03.273
not I want to do it.

00:25:03.334 --> 00:25:05.496
Because since I'm relationship driven,

00:25:05.596 --> 00:25:06.777
one thing I can never do is

00:25:06.876 --> 00:25:08.518
take that relationship back.

00:25:08.939 --> 00:25:10.019
So he always has that

00:25:10.038 --> 00:25:11.380
relationship with the mayor's office.

00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:12.500
Now, I can't take it back.

00:25:13.142 --> 00:25:15.083
So I have to be very aware

00:25:15.262 --> 00:25:16.263
as to the kind of people

00:25:16.304 --> 00:25:17.944
that I that I bring on board.

00:25:18.384 --> 00:25:19.806
And that's the reason why I

00:25:19.865 --> 00:25:20.926
had decided to kind of

00:25:20.967 --> 00:25:22.048
launch my own practice.

00:25:22.786 --> 00:25:23.185
Nice.

00:25:23.306 --> 00:25:24.586
And when did you launch?

00:25:25.646 --> 00:25:28.387
I launched it in 2017,

00:25:28.387 --> 00:25:32.048
right after I did some

00:25:32.088 --> 00:25:34.549
consulting for Tesla.

00:25:34.970 --> 00:25:36.730
I then went ahead and did it privately.

00:25:36.931 --> 00:25:39.731
And then I slowly built the practice.

00:25:39.771 --> 00:25:40.751
But it wasn't easy because I

00:25:40.771 --> 00:25:42.532
would have the clients that I loved.

00:25:43.073 --> 00:25:44.452
And then I would work with entrepreneurs.

00:25:44.512 --> 00:25:45.252
And I remember one time I

00:25:45.272 --> 00:25:46.354
was working with a pizza shop.

00:25:46.513 --> 00:25:46.673
Mm-hmm.

00:25:47.878 --> 00:25:48.140
So,

00:25:48.579 --> 00:25:49.960
but sometimes you got to work with the

00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:52.761
pizza shop to get to the big tech firms,

00:25:52.842 --> 00:25:52.981
right?

00:25:53.001 --> 00:25:55.242
Just get Dave Portnoy to

00:25:55.262 --> 00:25:56.183
take a bite of a slice and

00:25:56.243 --> 00:25:56.923
it will blow up, right?

00:25:56.943 --> 00:25:58.305
As long as you get an eight

00:25:58.345 --> 00:25:59.945
or above or seven and a half and above,

00:25:59.986 --> 00:26:00.365
I should say.

00:26:01.385 --> 00:26:02.126
But talk about the clients

00:26:02.146 --> 00:26:03.207
you work with today, right?

00:26:03.267 --> 00:26:03.887
Because when you mentioned

00:26:03.907 --> 00:26:04.928
the word startup, you know,

00:26:04.948 --> 00:26:05.689
a lot of people want to

00:26:05.729 --> 00:26:06.828
help these young entrepreneurs,

00:26:06.888 --> 00:26:07.869
but the truth is they don't have money,

00:26:08.589 --> 00:26:08.869
right?

00:26:08.970 --> 00:26:11.471
So is it more companies that, you know,

00:26:11.551 --> 00:26:13.252
have just raised capital, for example,

00:26:13.313 --> 00:26:14.053
and they have a decent

00:26:14.073 --> 00:26:15.394
budget now to do PR?

00:26:16.384 --> 00:26:17.285
Because startup could mean a

00:26:17.325 --> 00:26:19.385
lot of different things to many,

00:26:19.425 --> 00:26:19.826
of course.

00:26:20.227 --> 00:26:21.448
And I know a lot of people

00:26:21.488 --> 00:26:22.188
have said they started

00:26:22.228 --> 00:26:22.969
working with startups that

00:26:23.009 --> 00:26:24.609
have not raised capital and

00:26:24.630 --> 00:26:26.411
they realize like never doing it again.

00:26:26.711 --> 00:26:26.891
Right.

00:26:26.911 --> 00:26:28.712
Because every nickel and

00:26:28.732 --> 00:26:30.294
dime has to be accounted for.

00:26:30.394 --> 00:26:31.954
And 99 percent of them go out of business.

00:26:32.275 --> 00:26:32.474
Right.

00:26:32.555 --> 00:26:34.076
Like the stats are very, very bad,

00:26:34.416 --> 00:26:35.257
especially tech startups.

00:26:35.657 --> 00:26:37.298
You know, you take apps like Owl.

00:26:37.959 --> 00:26:39.160
It's like ninety nine point nine.

00:26:39.180 --> 00:26:39.819
You go out of business

00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:40.820
within 12 months because

00:26:40.840 --> 00:26:41.821
they run out of money, of course.

00:26:42.301 --> 00:26:43.803
so how could they get pr you

00:26:43.843 --> 00:26:44.983
know they just don't have

00:26:45.003 --> 00:26:45.924
the budget for it all their

00:26:45.944 --> 00:26:46.566
money's going into

00:26:47.205 --> 00:26:48.047
literally building the

00:26:48.146 --> 00:26:49.327
actual technology itself

00:26:49.587 --> 00:26:50.509
and then they're you're

00:26:50.528 --> 00:26:51.269
sitting there like this

00:26:51.390 --> 00:26:52.631
praying that people show up

00:26:53.070 --> 00:26:53.711
and you know most of them

00:26:53.751 --> 00:26:55.032
don't have um a

00:26:55.053 --> 00:26:56.594
go-to-market strategy so

00:26:56.634 --> 00:26:57.414
they just think that people

00:26:57.474 --> 00:26:58.096
go into the app and

00:26:58.135 --> 00:26:58.996
actually it will solve a

00:26:59.016 --> 00:27:00.037
problem it'll blow up but

00:27:00.478 --> 00:27:01.679
only few apps actually do

00:27:01.719 --> 00:27:02.940
that like clubhouse was an

00:27:02.980 --> 00:27:05.642
example that actually did that right they

00:27:06.220 --> 00:27:08.541
They launched and it was perfect timing.

00:27:08.761 --> 00:27:09.202
And everyone's like,

00:27:09.222 --> 00:27:10.022
look at this technology.

00:27:10.063 --> 00:27:11.463
We could all talk together in a room.

00:27:12.065 --> 00:27:13.145
And it absolutely blew up

00:27:13.185 --> 00:27:14.567
within a couple of months

00:27:14.807 --> 00:27:15.528
where it went from like a

00:27:15.567 --> 00:27:17.269
million downloads to who

00:27:17.308 --> 00:27:18.190
knows what level.

00:27:18.230 --> 00:27:19.431
But everyone was talking

00:27:19.451 --> 00:27:21.232
about Clubhouse being the next TikTok,

00:27:21.452 --> 00:27:21.692
right?

00:27:21.712 --> 00:27:22.554
Or the next Instagram.

00:27:23.114 --> 00:27:23.974
But most apps,

00:27:24.095 --> 00:27:25.256
like you can't drive people

00:27:25.296 --> 00:27:26.416
to the app store, right?

00:27:26.457 --> 00:27:28.078
Most startups can't drive clients.

00:27:28.739 --> 00:27:30.000
So kind of tell us the niche

00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:31.240
that you're currently working with.

00:27:31.421 --> 00:27:32.982
Is it more like the brands that,

00:27:33.459 --> 00:27:34.638
first raise their initial

00:27:34.719 --> 00:27:36.700
round or a little later stages,

00:27:36.740 --> 00:27:37.220
for example.

00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:37.660
Yeah.

00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.040
And then exactly what you're saying is a,

00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:41.781
has been a part of like our,

00:27:42.201 --> 00:27:43.541
our journey of offerings

00:27:44.122 --> 00:27:45.022
where I got to a point

00:27:45.063 --> 00:27:46.643
where I couldn't work with startups.

00:27:46.742 --> 00:27:48.064
And although my heart was in

00:27:48.144 --> 00:27:51.944
it and I'm like, look, I love you.

00:27:51.964 --> 00:27:53.505
I love what you're representing,

00:27:54.226 --> 00:27:57.467
but I also represent some

00:27:57.747 --> 00:27:58.866
billionaires that are going

00:27:58.886 --> 00:27:59.928
to be running for office.

00:28:00.268 --> 00:28:00.607
Right.

00:28:01.028 --> 00:28:01.127
And,

00:28:01.675 --> 00:28:02.636
that are working their

00:28:02.717 --> 00:28:03.817
brands or building their

00:28:03.876 --> 00:28:05.178
brands up or creating their

00:28:05.258 --> 00:28:06.878
own digital media companies.

00:28:07.019 --> 00:28:08.599
And they're maneuvering

00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:09.861
because they're positioning

00:28:09.901 --> 00:28:11.582
themselves for like different things.

00:28:12.282 --> 00:28:14.243
And they pay me very well.

00:28:14.463 --> 00:28:15.984
And so when they reach out

00:28:16.005 --> 00:28:16.766
to me and my team,

00:28:16.786 --> 00:28:17.885
I have to be responsive.

00:28:18.366 --> 00:28:20.048
But in me being responsive,

00:28:20.788 --> 00:28:21.868
I'm not going to be able to

00:28:21.909 --> 00:28:23.789
then go ahead and consult

00:28:24.029 --> 00:28:25.770
the way I would for a

00:28:25.990 --> 00:28:27.471
startup that isn't at a

00:28:27.531 --> 00:28:28.313
level where they can

00:28:29.531 --> 00:28:31.232
use me as a resource so what

00:28:31.292 --> 00:28:32.933
I do now is I have an

00:28:33.034 --> 00:28:34.734
offering that is more or

00:28:34.775 --> 00:28:36.336
less I will coach your team

00:28:36.355 --> 00:28:38.897
right one hour uh out of

00:28:38.938 --> 00:28:39.959
the month where here's your

00:28:39.999 --> 00:28:41.078
team this is how you write

00:28:41.098 --> 00:28:42.039
the press release this is

00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:43.461
who you reach out to this

00:28:43.520 --> 00:28:44.421
is how you speak to them

00:28:44.461 --> 00:28:45.281
this is the events that you

00:28:45.321 --> 00:28:46.583
need to get to here's an

00:28:46.603 --> 00:28:47.722
investor that you should be

00:28:47.782 --> 00:28:48.683
speaking to here's a

00:28:48.723 --> 00:28:49.984
podcast you need to get on

00:28:50.365 --> 00:28:51.925
and where I teach them so I

00:28:52.846 --> 00:28:54.106
i bring them into my

00:28:54.227 --> 00:28:56.328
journey and it's happened

00:28:56.388 --> 00:28:57.849
where like I've consulted

00:28:58.674 --> 00:29:00.096
on a month to month basis,

00:29:00.476 --> 00:29:01.676
they raise their round.

00:29:01.696 --> 00:29:03.718
Then they have the capital.

00:29:03.738 --> 00:29:05.419
They put me in the,

00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.121
the budget and they've been

00:29:08.161 --> 00:29:09.781
my clients for like four years.

00:29:09.821 --> 00:29:10.722
I have a client.

00:29:11.022 --> 00:29:12.183
That's a pretty good idea

00:29:12.263 --> 00:29:14.325
because you're planting more seeds,

00:29:14.384 --> 00:29:15.925
more relationships, and you know, they,

00:29:16.385 --> 00:29:18.528
they can't get the full you, uh,

00:29:18.548 --> 00:29:20.388
but one hour a month and you, and you,

00:29:20.915 --> 00:29:21.916
You created that system you

00:29:21.936 --> 00:29:23.619
talked about earlier, system entrepreneur,

00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:23.799
right?

00:29:24.361 --> 00:29:25.602
So it creates a system,

00:29:25.662 --> 00:29:26.624
and that's what they need

00:29:26.804 --> 00:29:28.445
because most startups are

00:29:29.186 --> 00:29:30.888
going to have to do it themselves,

00:29:30.970 --> 00:29:32.050
putting their pitch book together,

00:29:32.652 --> 00:29:34.513
going out and trying to find an investor.

00:29:34.795 --> 00:29:37.258
And their PR strategy sometimes is lost,

00:29:37.679 --> 00:29:37.858
right?

00:29:37.898 --> 00:29:38.720
They want all this help.

00:29:39.767 --> 00:29:41.548
They watch videos on YouTube,

00:29:42.210 --> 00:29:43.111
but sometimes like the

00:29:43.151 --> 00:29:43.872
videos are a little

00:29:43.912 --> 00:29:44.653
different than somebody

00:29:44.712 --> 00:29:45.513
actually getting on a Zoom

00:29:45.534 --> 00:29:46.114
meeting with you and

00:29:46.153 --> 00:29:47.516
actually looking at your

00:29:47.655 --> 00:29:48.457
actual business and saying,

00:29:48.477 --> 00:29:49.578
for your business, actually,

00:29:49.618 --> 00:29:51.080
this is what I would recommend, right?

00:29:51.101 --> 00:29:51.601
Because there's so much

00:29:51.641 --> 00:29:52.241
knowledge out there,

00:29:52.281 --> 00:29:53.022
but it has to be applied.

00:29:53.613 --> 00:29:54.192
Absolutely.

00:29:54.313 --> 00:29:56.233
And I'll give an example.

00:29:56.273 --> 00:29:58.515
We had a client that was out

00:29:58.535 --> 00:30:00.816
of a tech accelerator, the Tampa Bay Wave,

00:30:00.996 --> 00:30:01.957
that I connected with maybe

00:30:02.037 --> 00:30:02.856
three years ago,

00:30:03.757 --> 00:30:04.698
initially couldn't really

00:30:04.738 --> 00:30:06.157
afford the full offering,

00:30:06.178 --> 00:30:08.078
started doing some consulting.

00:30:08.439 --> 00:30:10.359
We landed them in a

00:30:10.460 --> 00:30:12.080
publication that I

00:30:12.161 --> 00:30:14.442
recommended them to be in.

00:30:14.521 --> 00:30:15.301
I placed them.

00:30:16.021 --> 00:30:17.042
And from that,

00:30:17.383 --> 00:30:19.304
they got an investor to

00:30:19.364 --> 00:30:20.723
commit $7 million.

00:30:22.252 --> 00:30:24.055
Then he came back and said,

00:30:24.115 --> 00:30:25.477
I just hired you instead of

00:30:25.517 --> 00:30:27.259
like all these other strategists.

00:30:27.419 --> 00:30:28.440
And he's been my client for

00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:29.340
four years now.

00:30:29.361 --> 00:30:29.682
Right.

00:30:29.721 --> 00:30:31.143
But he raised money.

00:30:31.182 --> 00:30:33.905
He's he's since raised over 20 million.

00:30:34.146 --> 00:30:34.406
Right.

00:30:34.928 --> 00:30:36.088
And he's doing very well.

00:30:36.388 --> 00:30:37.470
Longstanding client.

00:30:37.691 --> 00:30:39.092
We continue to do work for him.

00:30:39.472 --> 00:30:40.854
So I won't turn people away

00:30:40.973 --> 00:30:41.694
if they're patient.

00:30:41.795 --> 00:30:43.136
Now, I've had the opposite.

00:30:43.608 --> 00:30:45.210
Where they're like, sure, we'll consult.

00:30:45.650 --> 00:30:46.289
And then they have their

00:30:46.349 --> 00:30:47.589
team on and I tell them

00:30:47.609 --> 00:30:48.451
what to do and then they

00:30:48.570 --> 00:30:50.010
don't do it and they expect

00:30:50.050 --> 00:30:51.132
me to do the busy work.

00:30:51.471 --> 00:30:53.893
And then I cut it and I said, I'm here.

00:30:54.472 --> 00:30:55.972
My time is extremely valuable.

00:30:56.073 --> 00:30:57.273
If you put it into action,

00:30:57.294 --> 00:30:58.193
I have enough case studies

00:30:58.213 --> 00:30:59.494
to say that you will dominate.

00:30:59.934 --> 00:31:00.795
But then if you don't put

00:31:00.835 --> 00:31:01.575
things into action,

00:31:01.634 --> 00:31:02.935
it just isn't worth my time.

00:31:02.996 --> 00:31:04.296
And I'm just at that point

00:31:04.816 --> 00:31:06.196
in my career where I can do that.

00:31:06.718 --> 00:31:07.857
And then how many

00:31:08.397 --> 00:31:09.939
approximately clients you

00:31:09.959 --> 00:31:11.338
take on at a time, right?

00:31:11.378 --> 00:31:12.440
I do notice this in your

00:31:12.500 --> 00:31:15.000
field that it's hard to,

00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:16.681
to have exponential growth

00:31:17.201 --> 00:31:18.580
with employees and staff

00:31:18.780 --> 00:31:20.642
because you really have to

00:31:20.682 --> 00:31:22.603
do an amazing job per

00:31:22.663 --> 00:31:24.363
client before you start

00:31:24.383 --> 00:31:25.123
running into issues where

00:31:25.143 --> 00:31:25.803
they're not happy.

00:31:26.183 --> 00:31:26.423
Right.

00:31:26.463 --> 00:31:29.223
So we see a lot of PR firms stay in,

00:31:29.384 --> 00:31:31.285
you know, you know, six months.

00:31:31.529 --> 00:31:33.590
three to six employees and just,

00:31:33.971 --> 00:31:35.451
they have a really tight

00:31:35.490 --> 00:31:36.551
relationships with lots of

00:31:36.592 --> 00:31:37.932
people in the media and

00:31:37.951 --> 00:31:38.932
they will only take on X

00:31:38.951 --> 00:31:40.792
amount of clients one in one out.

00:31:41.113 --> 00:31:41.313
Right.

00:31:41.353 --> 00:31:43.013
Because they don't want to

00:31:43.294 --> 00:31:44.134
ruin their reputation.

00:31:44.334 --> 00:31:45.534
Like you start expanding

00:31:45.594 --> 00:31:47.355
exponentially all of a sudden, like,

00:31:47.775 --> 00:31:48.355
you know, it's hard.

00:31:48.394 --> 00:31:49.075
You can't just shove

00:31:49.135 --> 00:31:51.756
everybody into refresh Miami.

00:31:51.796 --> 00:31:52.876
You can't shove everybody

00:31:53.396 --> 00:31:54.196
into the amount of

00:31:54.217 --> 00:31:55.057
relationships that you have

00:31:55.076 --> 00:31:55.758
because we all have a

00:31:55.817 --> 00:31:56.657
limited amount of time in a

00:31:56.718 --> 00:31:58.719
day and X amount of relationships.

00:31:58.979 --> 00:32:00.118
So you have to be careful of course.

00:32:00.605 --> 00:32:01.186
Absolutely.

00:32:01.227 --> 00:32:02.228
And that's why we're very

00:32:02.307 --> 00:32:03.749
aware as to who we're going

00:32:03.769 --> 00:32:06.631
to bring on me specifically.

00:32:06.652 --> 00:32:08.173
I only work with five

00:32:08.252 --> 00:32:10.154
companies at any given time for me.

00:32:11.055 --> 00:32:12.356
I'm running the company and

00:32:12.396 --> 00:32:13.857
I'm consulting for these

00:32:13.938 --> 00:32:17.060
individuals exclusively right now.

00:32:17.526 --> 00:32:19.228
The value of saying

00:32:19.307 --> 00:32:21.770
OmniPublic is that I train my,

00:32:21.891 --> 00:32:22.811
I don't care if you've been

00:32:22.832 --> 00:32:23.873
a journalist for 20 years,

00:32:24.273 --> 00:32:26.016
you're going to be a terrible publicist.

00:32:26.777 --> 00:32:28.919
I've hired former TechCrunch,

00:32:29.038 --> 00:32:30.280
former Wall Street Journal,

00:32:30.401 --> 00:32:32.743
former USA Today, garbage.

00:32:33.942 --> 00:32:34.682
And it's not to say that

00:32:34.721 --> 00:32:35.923
they're garbage individuals,

00:32:35.982 --> 00:32:37.522
say that when you're a journalist,

00:32:37.542 --> 00:32:38.884
you're so accustomed to

00:32:38.943 --> 00:32:40.263
receiving the pitches and

00:32:40.304 --> 00:32:42.045
given the angles and like

00:32:42.105 --> 00:32:43.865
for you to shift over into like,

00:32:44.346 --> 00:32:47.067
I'm gonna create this media machine,

00:32:47.527 --> 00:32:48.227
it's difficult.

00:32:48.707 --> 00:32:50.387
I've found more success in

00:32:50.428 --> 00:32:52.509
taking somebody straight out of college

00:32:53.169 --> 00:32:54.571
teaching them how we do it

00:32:55.153 --> 00:32:56.615
and they crush it one of my

00:32:56.654 --> 00:32:57.797
best consultants right now

00:32:57.857 --> 00:32:59.079
is one year out of school

00:32:59.500 --> 00:33:00.903
and she's managing a

00:33:01.564 --> 00:33:02.987
tremendous book of business

00:33:03.567 --> 00:33:04.269
everybody's happy

00:33:04.798 --> 00:33:05.479
It makes sense because

00:33:05.499 --> 00:33:07.421
there's been a major shift, right?

00:33:07.461 --> 00:33:09.242
More people are listening to podcasts,

00:33:09.343 --> 00:33:10.625
watching short form video

00:33:10.664 --> 00:33:12.527
from podcasts or TikTok in

00:33:12.567 --> 00:33:13.347
general and gaining their

00:33:13.387 --> 00:33:14.628
knowledge or YouTube shorts,

00:33:15.049 --> 00:33:17.732
Instagram now has shorts

00:33:17.752 --> 00:33:19.013
and traditional media.

00:33:19.394 --> 00:33:20.756
It's kind of like drinking the Kool-Aid.

00:33:21.136 --> 00:33:22.739
Everyone, you know, is used to like, oh,

00:33:22.778 --> 00:33:24.780
just get into that publication and get,

00:33:25.390 --> 00:33:27.991
Or get into the local news

00:33:28.093 --> 00:33:29.594
and your business will skyrocket.

00:33:29.614 --> 00:33:30.615
That's just not the case.

00:33:31.455 --> 00:33:32.256
It just does not work.

00:33:32.296 --> 00:33:33.557
I've been on the local news.

00:33:34.137 --> 00:33:36.400
Not one person after that

00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:37.701
aired downloaded OWL.

00:33:37.842 --> 00:33:38.301
Not one.

00:33:38.742 --> 00:33:39.804
Because we used a unique

00:33:39.844 --> 00:33:41.045
referral code to track it

00:33:41.464 --> 00:33:42.125
and we didn't see any...

00:33:42.665 --> 00:33:42.905
you know,

00:33:43.886 --> 00:33:45.488
any spike in impressions on our website,

00:33:45.788 --> 00:33:47.288
we can see a spike at the app store.

00:33:47.910 --> 00:33:48.970
So it's what you do after

00:33:48.990 --> 00:33:49.651
you get on the news.

00:33:49.691 --> 00:33:51.112
Like, how do you take that to look,

00:33:51.531 --> 00:33:52.413
you know, more credible?

00:33:52.452 --> 00:33:54.034
We launched mentorship Monday after that.

00:33:54.054 --> 00:33:55.694
And we're like, look, we were on the news.

00:33:55.734 --> 00:33:57.096
We posted it up on our website.

00:33:57.115 --> 00:33:57.776
And like,

00:33:57.816 --> 00:33:59.196
now we're doing mentorship Monday

00:33:59.257 --> 00:34:00.417
with the local community.

00:34:01.051 --> 00:34:01.892
And everyone in the United

00:34:01.932 --> 00:34:03.272
States gained knowledge on

00:34:03.313 --> 00:34:04.413
Mondays for a dollar to

00:34:04.472 --> 00:34:05.594
call certain experts that

00:34:05.673 --> 00:34:06.554
usually charge more.

00:34:07.213 --> 00:34:08.695
So I completely agree with

00:34:08.715 --> 00:34:12.476
you that you can't just do

00:34:12.536 --> 00:34:13.436
it the old way.

00:34:13.896 --> 00:34:15.317
Things have advanced so quickly.

00:34:15.336 --> 00:34:16.378
So when you're hiring,

00:34:16.418 --> 00:34:17.018
it's the same thing.

00:34:17.543 --> 00:34:17.702
You know,

00:34:17.722 --> 00:34:20.324
hiring is so difficult today to find good,

00:34:20.623 --> 00:34:20.784
good,

00:34:20.983 --> 00:34:22.304
good people to work with your brand.

00:34:22.824 --> 00:34:24.143
And if they're so warped in

00:34:24.184 --> 00:34:26.105
the past of how, you know,

00:34:26.144 --> 00:34:27.065
the New York Times worked

00:34:27.105 --> 00:34:27.965
or the New York Post,

00:34:28.045 --> 00:34:30.005
it's just like it's just we

00:34:30.045 --> 00:34:31.405
have to switch gears.

00:34:31.425 --> 00:34:32.106
And some people can't.

00:34:32.126 --> 00:34:32.525
They're like, well,

00:34:32.565 --> 00:34:33.985
that's how it was when I worked there.

00:34:34.507 --> 00:34:34.827
Right.

00:34:34.947 --> 00:34:35.686
And then they kind of always

00:34:35.726 --> 00:34:37.286
go backwards versus going

00:34:37.347 --> 00:34:38.166
forward to saying, hey,

00:34:38.206 --> 00:34:39.788
this is the new reality of

00:34:39.807 --> 00:34:41.407
how to create a system for startups.

00:34:41.971 --> 00:34:43.172
you know, to have exponential growth.

00:34:43.371 --> 00:34:44.213
So I completely agree.

00:34:44.233 --> 00:34:44.992
What we're going to do now

00:34:45.052 --> 00:34:46.875
is transition to the segment of the show.

00:34:47.474 --> 00:34:49.215
We're going to look at the owl app.

00:34:49.677 --> 00:34:50.657
And what we're going to do

00:34:51.257 --> 00:34:52.278
is we're going to bring

00:34:52.458 --> 00:34:55.141
somebody live into the show.

00:34:55.561 --> 00:34:57.061
So we're going to bring,

00:34:58.222 --> 00:34:59.844
let's see who's available right now.

00:34:59.864 --> 00:35:00.885
We're going to look at the whole screen.

00:35:00.925 --> 00:35:01.905
Oh, it's got a refresh.

00:35:03.947 --> 00:35:04.467
Oh, Caesar.

00:35:04.547 --> 00:35:05.608
I could call you Caesar.

00:35:07.128 --> 00:35:09.431
So what we're going to do is

00:35:09.451 --> 00:35:10.552
we're going to bring Debbie in.

00:35:10.902 --> 00:35:12.222
Debbie does a lot in

00:35:12.282 --> 00:35:15.063
branding and she lives down

00:35:15.103 --> 00:35:16.085
here in South Florida,

00:35:16.824 --> 00:35:17.706
as well as she's got a

00:35:17.746 --> 00:35:18.585
place in Wisconsin.

00:35:19.507 --> 00:35:20.586
So it could be a situation

00:35:20.628 --> 00:35:21.688
where you talk to Debbie

00:35:21.748 --> 00:35:23.688
and you guys could collaborate, right?

00:35:23.708 --> 00:35:25.349
Because often we have people

00:35:25.389 --> 00:35:26.811
on the owl app where, you know,

00:35:26.831 --> 00:35:27.731
they cross over into the

00:35:27.771 --> 00:35:28.472
field that you do.

00:35:29.532 --> 00:35:29.713
But,

00:35:30.012 --> 00:35:31.333
but it could be more about helping

00:35:31.373 --> 00:35:32.514
individuals on LinkedIn,

00:35:32.554 --> 00:35:33.815
helping individuals on

00:35:33.855 --> 00:35:34.614
Instagram with posts.

00:35:35.596 --> 00:35:36.376
So, you know,

00:35:36.556 --> 00:35:38.217
every personnel can be either

00:35:38.257 --> 00:35:39.157
a potential customer or,

00:35:39.786 --> 00:35:41.228
or a potential individual to

00:35:41.248 --> 00:35:42.190
collaborate with, of course.

00:35:43.072 --> 00:35:44.233
So we're ringing her right now.

00:35:44.514 --> 00:35:45.536
So as she's doing that,

00:35:45.637 --> 00:35:46.858
you and Ellie talk a little bit.

00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:48.742
Hope she picks up, of course.

00:35:48.762 --> 00:35:50.565
I guess a Chela Diaz called

00:35:50.585 --> 00:35:52.168
me from our audio.

00:35:52.572 --> 00:35:53.532
Oh yeah.

00:35:53.773 --> 00:35:53.992
Yeah.

00:35:54.012 --> 00:35:54.253
That was it.

00:35:54.273 --> 00:35:54.353
Yeah.

00:35:54.373 --> 00:35:55.693
I guess we could call her back.

00:35:55.914 --> 00:35:56.054
Yeah.

00:35:56.074 --> 00:35:56.635
We could call.

00:35:56.675 --> 00:35:58.096
She'd be a good case study.

00:35:58.115 --> 00:35:59.577
Like she, she has like a,

00:35:59.836 --> 00:36:01.657
she basically has her own

00:36:01.697 --> 00:36:04.019
business and helps empower

00:36:04.099 --> 00:36:05.400
women to make more money.

00:36:05.621 --> 00:36:08.382
So she'd be like, I'm just an interesting.

00:36:08.402 --> 00:36:09.364
Yeah.

00:36:09.463 --> 00:36:10.063
Let's call her.

00:36:10.684 --> 00:36:11.184
Okay.

00:36:11.565 --> 00:36:11.664
Yeah.

00:36:11.684 --> 00:36:12.545
I should turn you in here.

00:36:12.565 --> 00:36:13.427
Do you want me to show you?

00:36:13.827 --> 00:36:14.106
Yep.

00:36:14.146 --> 00:36:14.387
Yep.

00:36:14.427 --> 00:36:15.108
Yep.

00:36:15.148 --> 00:36:15.867
Turn him off.

00:36:15.907 --> 00:36:16.688
So that way he doesn't get.

00:36:16.708 --> 00:36:17.650
Yeah.

00:36:18.010 --> 00:36:19.690
So of course, as an app where.

00:36:19.710 --> 00:36:20.512
See the timer here.

00:36:20.532 --> 00:36:21.012
You have seven.

00:36:26.849 --> 00:36:27.528
Okay.

00:36:28.289 --> 00:36:28.550
Sorry,

00:36:28.570 --> 00:36:30.570
everybody out there that was

00:36:30.650 --> 00:36:31.371
listening to.

00:36:34.333 --> 00:36:34.672
Okay.

00:36:34.693 --> 00:36:35.893
We're going to give Chella a call now.

00:36:39.574 --> 00:36:39.894
Okay.

00:36:39.934 --> 00:36:41.115
You are now offline.

00:36:41.135 --> 00:36:41.876
That's the best part about

00:36:41.956 --> 00:36:43.016
owl is you literally could

00:36:43.036 --> 00:36:44.998
be driving to Tampa for hours.

00:36:45.378 --> 00:36:46.777
And typically what are you

00:36:46.797 --> 00:36:47.358
doing in your car?

00:36:47.418 --> 00:36:47.559
Right?

00:36:47.579 --> 00:36:48.679
Listen to music, right?

00:36:48.699 --> 00:36:49.639
You're doing something,

00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:50.619
but you can just call

00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:51.740
someone and build opportunities.

00:36:52.661 --> 00:36:53.722
Hello, Chella.

00:36:53.762 --> 00:36:55.402
Welcome to the owl podcast.

00:36:55.422 --> 00:36:56.202
How are you doing today?

00:36:57.458 --> 00:36:58.858
Oh, I'm doing Fantabulous.

00:36:59.219 --> 00:36:59.378
Well,

00:36:59.418 --> 00:37:02.440
we noticed that we were giving Cesar

00:37:02.460 --> 00:37:05.824
a demo of OWL, and he, by accident,

00:37:05.864 --> 00:37:07.224
didn't go offline, and you called him.

00:37:07.284 --> 00:37:08.666
So we figured, let's call you back.

00:37:09.365 --> 00:37:11.347
Let's plug you into the OWL podcast.

00:37:11.367 --> 00:37:12.108
How are you doing today?

00:37:12.989 --> 00:37:13.869
I am wonderful.

00:37:13.929 --> 00:37:14.349
Thank you.

00:37:14.389 --> 00:37:15.550
I appreciate the call.

00:37:16.351 --> 00:37:18.652
So, Chella, for audience listening,

00:37:19.592 --> 00:37:19.873
you know,

00:37:20.112 --> 00:37:21.574
is the first person on the OWL

00:37:21.653 --> 00:37:23.436
app to hit 2,000 phone calls.

00:37:23.456 --> 00:37:23.635
What?

00:37:24.764 --> 00:37:26.887
She recognized that there

00:37:26.907 --> 00:37:28.668
was so much power in this platform.

00:37:28.708 --> 00:37:29.429
She always went to

00:37:29.489 --> 00:37:30.710
networking events all the time,

00:37:30.750 --> 00:37:31.530
built relationships.

00:37:32.010 --> 00:37:33.211
Such a believer in building

00:37:33.251 --> 00:37:34.532
opportunities through relationships.

00:37:35.512 --> 00:37:36.614
And she saw the writing on

00:37:36.634 --> 00:37:37.534
the wall 13 months ago.

00:37:37.594 --> 00:37:40.916
So in 13 months, she's placed 2,000 calls.

00:37:41.458 --> 00:37:42.719
So before, Chella,

00:37:42.918 --> 00:37:44.780
we tell everyone about yourself,

00:37:45.141 --> 00:37:45.621
tell us about your

00:37:45.641 --> 00:37:47.422
experience with these 2,000 calls.

00:37:47.461 --> 00:37:48.023
What's come from it?

00:37:49.972 --> 00:37:51.552
Oh my goodness, the list is long,

00:37:51.592 --> 00:37:52.594
but I don't want to take up

00:37:52.634 --> 00:37:54.034
the whole 10 minutes on that.

00:37:54.235 --> 00:37:56.516
But also it's the building relationships,

00:37:56.617 --> 00:37:56.858
right?

00:37:57.117 --> 00:38:00.199
The number of podcasts that

00:38:00.219 --> 00:38:02.101
have been interviewed from

00:38:02.161 --> 00:38:04.583
the conversations I had here on the app.

00:38:05.605 --> 00:38:06.324
Yes.

00:38:06.826 --> 00:38:11.088
I also saw a need for people

00:38:11.188 --> 00:38:13.030
that didn't know how to get

00:38:13.170 --> 00:38:16.634
started and were overwhelmed on LinkedIn.

00:38:17.637 --> 00:38:19.978
And I created an online

00:38:20.059 --> 00:38:22.181
course for that pain.

00:38:23.081 --> 00:38:24.603
So I'm just beyond excited

00:38:24.643 --> 00:38:26.644
because if it wasn't for OWL,

00:38:27.106 --> 00:38:28.347
I would not have seen the

00:38:28.387 --> 00:38:30.007
writing on the wall and

00:38:30.088 --> 00:38:31.969
that course would not have been created.

00:38:34.572 --> 00:38:36.094
Well, Chella, you know,

00:38:36.173 --> 00:38:37.474
our guest Cesar is here.

00:38:37.695 --> 00:38:38.396
He does a lot.

00:38:38.766 --> 00:38:40.007
you know, with PR.

00:38:40.166 --> 00:38:41.248
He helps a lot of startups

00:38:42.027 --> 00:38:43.688
really have exponential growth.

00:38:43.809 --> 00:38:44.349
So think about those

00:38:44.389 --> 00:38:46.391
startups who have already raised capital,

00:38:47.170 --> 00:38:47.472
right?

00:38:47.512 --> 00:38:49.353
They may have taken in a million,

00:38:49.373 --> 00:38:51.134
a $5 million of capital, for example.

00:38:51.233 --> 00:38:51.934
And he helps some of these

00:38:51.974 --> 00:38:54.815
companies literally go from, you know,

00:38:54.835 --> 00:38:55.956
maybe a million of revenue

00:38:56.197 --> 00:38:57.458
to 50 million of revenue.

00:38:57.518 --> 00:38:58.137
As an example,

00:38:58.398 --> 00:39:00.219
he works a lot behind the

00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:02.201
scenes with public affairs.

00:39:02.541 --> 00:39:04.722
You know, he's, he's done stuff, you know,

00:39:04.822 --> 00:39:05.802
in the city of Tampa,

00:39:05.822 --> 00:39:07.224
he's done stuff in the city of Miami and,

00:39:07.978 --> 00:39:09.659
And I'm sure some questions

00:39:09.699 --> 00:39:10.619
come to mind because a lot

00:39:10.659 --> 00:39:12.000
of times you have

00:39:12.081 --> 00:39:13.842
entrepreneurs that you work with that,

00:39:14.181 --> 00:39:17.043
you know, they, they, they take, you know,

00:39:17.063 --> 00:39:18.304
your LinkedIn course, they get,

00:39:18.864 --> 00:39:20.005
they get things moving along,

00:39:20.144 --> 00:39:21.005
but then they want to see

00:39:21.065 --> 00:39:21.925
exponential growth.

00:39:21.945 --> 00:39:22.726
So do you have a question

00:39:22.746 --> 00:39:24.407
for Cesar that comes to

00:39:24.447 --> 00:39:26.028
mind with how he helps his

00:39:26.068 --> 00:39:27.670
clients out really create a system,

00:39:27.989 --> 00:39:28.429
for example?

00:39:28.590 --> 00:39:29.130
Oh my God.

00:39:29.190 --> 00:39:30.672
Yes, absolutely.

00:39:30.731 --> 00:39:31.331
And that's it.

00:39:31.771 --> 00:39:32.632
It's like, what,

00:39:33.128 --> 00:39:35.590
We often get caught up in the shiny object,

00:39:35.969 --> 00:39:36.369
Cesar.

00:39:36.969 --> 00:39:38.630
So for those folks that are

00:39:38.710 --> 00:39:41.271
already reached their 1 million, right?

00:39:41.371 --> 00:39:42.851
And they want to get to the

00:39:42.851 --> 00:39:44.811
5 to the 10 and they're frozen.

00:39:44.831 --> 00:39:47.793
What would be like maybe two

00:39:47.873 --> 00:39:50.534
things and everybody's coming at them,

00:39:50.574 --> 00:39:50.753
right?

00:39:50.773 --> 00:39:51.773
Well, I can help you with this.

00:39:51.853 --> 00:39:52.635
I can help you with that.

00:39:52.675 --> 00:39:55.635
There's so many options presented to them.

00:39:56.356 --> 00:39:59.416
How would you suggest that they, you know,

00:39:59.777 --> 00:40:01.097
which options should they go with?

00:40:03.402 --> 00:40:03.963
I would say,

00:40:05.005 --> 00:40:07.106
so what you did with LinkedIn is spot on,

00:40:07.306 --> 00:40:07.447
right?

00:40:07.467 --> 00:40:08.327
Because the first thing that

00:40:08.367 --> 00:40:10.311
I discuss is you are your

00:40:10.371 --> 00:40:12.612
first piece of media, right?

00:40:13.193 --> 00:40:14.514
If you're at that 1 million

00:40:14.574 --> 00:40:16.157
mark and you have a widget

00:40:16.217 --> 00:40:17.559
and you have existing users,

00:40:18.190 --> 00:40:20.032
those users should be

00:40:20.092 --> 00:40:21.632
converted into followers

00:40:22.192 --> 00:40:25.213
right uh and an audience so

00:40:25.652 --> 00:40:26.592
there's many things that

00:40:26.652 --> 00:40:28.273
you can use to curate an

00:40:28.353 --> 00:40:29.233
audience one of them is

00:40:29.273 --> 00:40:30.594
linkedin so you can drop a

00:40:30.813 --> 00:40:32.635
linkedin newsletter or you

00:40:32.675 --> 00:40:33.414
can have your own

00:40:33.434 --> 00:40:34.896
newsletter where you're

00:40:35.076 --> 00:40:37.135
taking that audience and

00:40:37.195 --> 00:40:39.056
you have them as a data set

00:40:39.916 --> 00:40:41.416
or you can insert multiple

00:40:41.456 --> 00:40:43.358
calls to actions now

00:40:44.197 --> 00:40:45.059
You can do anything.

00:40:45.139 --> 00:40:47.021
So say you have this audience,

00:40:47.523 --> 00:40:49.144
say it's a thousand real

00:40:50.085 --> 00:40:52.809
followers and you drop,

00:40:53.130 --> 00:40:54.231
you're dropping a widget.

00:40:54.592 --> 00:40:55.414
They should know first.

00:40:56.764 --> 00:40:57.644
You're having an event.

00:40:57.764 --> 00:40:58.545
They should know first.

00:40:58.826 --> 00:40:59.985
I just dropped in Forbes.

00:41:00.505 --> 00:41:01.166
Here's the link.

00:41:01.347 --> 00:41:01.947
Check it out.

00:41:02.106 --> 00:41:02.786
Click on the link.

00:41:03.268 --> 00:41:05.608
So number one, go from, hey,

00:41:05.748 --> 00:41:07.349
I'm selling a widget and I

00:41:07.369 --> 00:41:09.610
just want a customer to, hey,

00:41:09.650 --> 00:41:10.789
I'm providing value.

00:41:11.070 --> 00:41:12.731
And now I have an existing

00:41:12.971 --> 00:41:14.771
audience that I can curate,

00:41:15.211 --> 00:41:16.851
cultivate and position them

00:41:16.913 --> 00:41:18.273
to whatever it is that I want to do.

00:41:18.592 --> 00:41:19.472
How do you do that?

00:41:19.552 --> 00:41:21.094
Being that the algorithm on

00:41:21.134 --> 00:41:22.253
LinkedIn has changed so

00:41:22.293 --> 00:41:23.614
much and you're only reaching maybe

00:41:24.577 --> 00:41:25.458
half a percent of your

00:41:25.518 --> 00:41:26.398
audience typically when you

00:41:26.418 --> 00:41:28.661
do a post or the newsletter

00:41:28.802 --> 00:41:29.702
same thing it's only going

00:41:29.722 --> 00:41:30.503
to x amount are you

00:41:30.623 --> 00:41:32.085
exporting your contacts for

00:41:32.126 --> 00:41:33.547
example are you are you

00:41:33.588 --> 00:41:35.070
then creating a newsletter

00:41:35.090 --> 00:41:35.911
with the contacts that you

00:41:35.951 --> 00:41:38.454
just export for example um

00:41:38.614 --> 00:41:39.534
are you direct emailing

00:41:39.574 --> 00:41:40.815
them you know even like

00:41:41.277 --> 00:41:42.317
Kind of explain kind of like

00:41:42.336 --> 00:41:45.498
a step further because I

00:41:45.898 --> 00:41:46.639
feel like a lot of people

00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:47.960
have these contacts, right?

00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:49.679
They keep building and building, you know,

00:41:50.019 --> 00:41:50.840
like I have 13,

00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:51.541
14,000 followers on

00:41:51.581 --> 00:41:52.920
LinkedIn and LinkedIn is

00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.601
known as a very credible

00:41:54.661 --> 00:41:55.362
source because it's not

00:41:55.402 --> 00:41:56.422
like other platforms where

00:41:57.003 --> 00:41:58.864
you buy fake followers often, right?

00:41:59.224 --> 00:42:00.284
LinkedIn has put more of a

00:42:00.304 --> 00:42:00.943
shutdown to that.

00:42:01.264 --> 00:42:02.565
They've eliminated a lot of the bots.

00:42:02.585 --> 00:42:04.065
Unless people are using bots on LinkedIn,

00:42:04.166 --> 00:42:06.405
it does exist, you know, with these pods,

00:42:06.445 --> 00:42:07.666
for example, but you know,

00:42:07.726 --> 00:42:08.447
how do you actually reach,

00:42:08.467 --> 00:42:09.106
like I got 13,000 followers.

00:42:10.907 --> 00:42:12.670
I will create a newsletter.

00:42:13.489 --> 00:42:14.692
And then in the newsletter,

00:42:14.711 --> 00:42:17.554
I would announce I'm

00:42:17.733 --> 00:42:19.396
developing an inner circle

00:42:20.096 --> 00:42:22.938
or I'm developing a private email list.

00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:25.181
And you can use whatever you want,

00:42:25.240 --> 00:42:27.182
constant contact, MailChimp, et cetera.

00:42:27.202 --> 00:42:27.342
Sure.

00:42:28.123 --> 00:42:28.302
Right.

00:42:28.342 --> 00:42:30.545
So you convert them over to your data set.

00:42:30.585 --> 00:42:32.266
You could even use a Google sheet.

00:42:32.746 --> 00:42:33.007
Right.

00:42:34.507 --> 00:42:35.768
I'll give you a real time example.

00:42:36.028 --> 00:42:37.130
The podcast,

00:42:37.829 --> 00:42:39.452
The School of Hard Knocks on Instagram.

00:42:39.811 --> 00:42:40.052
Right.

00:42:40.773 --> 00:42:42.474
Almost two million followers.

00:42:42.873 --> 00:42:44.715
They'll get a million to 10

00:42:44.715 --> 00:42:46.976
million views on a reel.

00:42:48.498 --> 00:42:50.000
And they're launching a newsletter.

00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.282
They dropped in their reel and a story,

00:42:53.322 --> 00:42:55.804
hey, sign up to our insider circle.

00:42:56.717 --> 00:42:59.278
They converted maybe out of

00:42:59.338 --> 00:43:01.139
the 2 million followers,

00:43:01.139 --> 00:43:06.583
80 to 100,000 actual people to now go in.

00:43:06.983 --> 00:43:08.525
Here's my data set.

00:43:08.684 --> 00:43:09.664
Here's my audience.

00:43:10.144 --> 00:43:14.527
So use whatever audience, whether it's IG,

00:43:14.748 --> 00:43:17.289
LinkedIn, whatever it is, Twitter.

00:43:17.750 --> 00:43:18.610
Hey, opt in.

00:43:19.210 --> 00:43:20.371
The ones that are going to opt in,

00:43:20.411 --> 00:43:21.532
those are your super fans, right?

00:43:22.844 --> 00:43:25.405
That's where you cultivate community from.

00:43:25.887 --> 00:43:27.547
So the first thing is

00:43:27.889 --> 00:43:29.831
convert your following,

00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:31.331
make them an audience,

00:43:31.851 --> 00:43:33.653
give offerings to the audience,

00:43:34.195 --> 00:43:35.835
and then build from there.

00:43:36.356 --> 00:43:38.137
Because once you start

00:43:38.257 --> 00:43:40.199
creating community is

00:43:40.340 --> 00:43:41.561
really when you begin to

00:43:42.673 --> 00:43:44.934
orchestrate and, and dominate, right?

00:43:44.954 --> 00:43:46.494
Because you can tell your community.

00:43:46.914 --> 00:43:47.916
So, and here's why.

00:43:47.996 --> 00:43:48.896
So you're a founder,

00:43:49.016 --> 00:43:50.735
you have multiple enterprises, right?

00:43:50.956 --> 00:43:51.135
Yes.

00:43:51.376 --> 00:43:53.396
Right now it's, Hey, go on to owl,

00:43:53.836 --> 00:43:56.878
but it may be, you know,

00:43:57.197 --> 00:43:58.778
owl 2.0 or company 2.0.

00:43:58.778 --> 00:43:58.998
Sure.

00:43:59.478 --> 00:44:00.619
You want to be able to

00:44:00.699 --> 00:44:01.878
curate an audience that you

00:44:01.898 --> 00:44:03.920
can tell them to go on different arenas.

00:44:04.539 --> 00:44:07.081
For example, like them or not Elon.

00:44:07.625 --> 00:44:08.985
Hey, he has a following.

00:44:09.405 --> 00:44:10.965
I'm dropping this in Tesla.

00:44:11.005 --> 00:44:12.507
I'm dropping this in SpaceX.

00:44:12.567 --> 00:44:14.427
I'm dropping this in solar city.

00:44:14.467 --> 00:44:16.088
I'm dropping this back to

00:44:16.128 --> 00:44:16.807
personal branding.

00:44:17.128 --> 00:44:17.867
You want more and more

00:44:17.887 --> 00:44:19.088
people are starting to realize like,

00:44:19.128 --> 00:44:19.768
wait a second.

00:44:19.809 --> 00:44:21.909
Like I built the brand, you know,

00:44:22.090 --> 00:44:23.110
my name around the brand,

00:44:23.210 --> 00:44:24.210
but instead and build my

00:44:24.251 --> 00:44:25.490
own name and then it could go anywhere.

00:44:25.791 --> 00:44:27.472
I'm curious, too,

00:44:27.612 --> 00:44:30.855
in terms of choosing that

00:44:30.914 --> 00:44:33.876
inner circle and what to use.

00:44:34.777 --> 00:44:37.139
Once you get their contact information,

00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:40.202
do you suggest a text group

00:44:40.621 --> 00:44:43.403
or an email group or a Facebook group?

00:44:43.965 --> 00:44:46.005
What do you think is the most successful,

00:44:46.106 --> 00:44:48.527
and is there a technology –

00:44:48.527 --> 00:44:50.969
or a company that is affordable,

00:44:51.009 --> 00:44:52.969
like that can automate these things.

00:44:53.489 --> 00:44:54.431
So here's the thing.

00:44:55.090 --> 00:44:56.711
You need to know your audience.

00:44:56.871 --> 00:44:57.172
Okay.

00:44:57.351 --> 00:44:58.592
Because I'll give an example.

00:44:58.952 --> 00:45:01.454
Blockchain, crypto, it's X, right?

00:45:01.653 --> 00:45:02.534
And Twitter spaces.

00:45:02.753 --> 00:45:02.934
Sure.

00:45:02.994 --> 00:45:03.574
All day long.

00:45:04.735 --> 00:45:06.655
Entrepreneurs, it's still WhatsApp.

00:45:07.016 --> 00:45:10.896
Tech, Signal, Telegram, right?

00:45:11.358 --> 00:45:12.197
I've seen it all.

00:45:12.918 --> 00:45:13.358
Some of them.

00:45:13.418 --> 00:45:13.679
Yeah,

00:45:13.938 --> 00:45:15.259
especially when you're new and you're

00:45:15.278 --> 00:45:16.820
just building and it's hard to know like,

00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:17.940
Baby boomers, AOL.

00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:19.121
But your audience,

00:45:19.260 --> 00:45:20.942
like I'm trying to do this

00:45:21.021 --> 00:45:23.603
just weird music with my fans.

00:45:23.643 --> 00:45:25.025
And it's like, okay,

00:45:25.045 --> 00:45:26.346
when I drop a new song,

00:45:26.385 --> 00:45:27.565
like I want them to be the

00:45:27.606 --> 00:45:28.547
first to hear it.

00:45:29.166 --> 00:45:30.487
And just trying to figure out, well,

00:45:31.048 --> 00:45:32.628
where should I do it over

00:45:32.648 --> 00:45:34.851
an automated text subscription?

00:45:34.931 --> 00:45:35.650
Do I do a group?

00:45:35.690 --> 00:45:37.152
Like it's hard to determine

00:45:37.192 --> 00:45:37.932
where they're going to.

00:45:38.313 --> 00:45:39.434
And that's the challenge is

00:45:39.474 --> 00:45:41.335
that there isn't a one thing.

00:45:41.394 --> 00:45:41.695
Yeah.

00:45:41.775 --> 00:45:43.115
Agencies love discord.

00:45:44.297 --> 00:45:45.498
But it's your community,

00:45:45.538 --> 00:45:47.340
so you should know, hey,

00:45:47.699 --> 00:45:49.601
if I'm on blockchain and I'm in LinkedIn,

00:45:49.621 --> 00:45:51.043
I have a newsletter, hey,

00:45:51.304 --> 00:45:53.105
join my Twitter space every

00:45:53.166 --> 00:45:54.327
Friday at 5 o'clock.

00:45:56.568 --> 00:45:58.329
And I'll give you another good example,

00:45:58.389 --> 00:45:59.009
right?

00:45:59.128 --> 00:46:00.010
Gary Cardone,

00:46:00.150 --> 00:46:01.510
huge in the blockchain space.

00:46:02.251 --> 00:46:03.331
About a year ago,

00:46:03.472 --> 00:46:05.432
he had 1,000 followers on Twitter.

00:46:05.853 --> 00:46:07.914
He consistently told his followers,

00:46:08.054 --> 00:46:09.494
I will be on Twitter space.

00:46:09.934 --> 00:46:12.476
He's at 20,000 now because

00:46:12.516 --> 00:46:13.976
he understood that that

00:46:14.056 --> 00:46:16.557
community is there, right?

00:46:16.777 --> 00:46:19.579
And his team, Greg, understands that.

00:46:20.179 --> 00:46:23.222
So you have to know where your audience is,

00:46:23.342 --> 00:46:23.581
right?

00:46:25.469 --> 00:46:25.570
Oh,

00:46:25.809 --> 00:46:27.690
that's the buzzer that we have 20

00:46:27.690 --> 00:46:29.391
seconds left with Chella over here.

00:46:29.431 --> 00:46:29.931
Well, Chella,

00:46:30.271 --> 00:46:32.213
thanks for joining us on the OWL podcast.

00:46:32.793 --> 00:46:33.353
We're going to make sure

00:46:33.373 --> 00:46:34.132
that you and Cesar,

00:46:34.172 --> 00:46:35.554
we're going to make sure

00:46:35.574 --> 00:46:37.175
you and Cesar chat after this, of course.

00:46:37.195 --> 00:46:37.894
Yes, ma'am.

00:46:38.054 --> 00:46:38.614
It's a pleasure.

00:46:38.655 --> 00:46:39.996
Thank you for calling in.

00:46:40.016 --> 00:46:42.016
Okay.

00:46:42.396 --> 00:46:44.197
And then for everyone listening out there,

00:46:44.237 --> 00:46:45.697
you get to leave Chella a review.

00:46:45.978 --> 00:46:47.219
So we'll give her five stars

00:46:47.759 --> 00:46:48.298
because that was a

00:46:48.338 --> 00:46:49.599
five-star question that she asked,

00:46:49.619 --> 00:46:50.159
of course, right?

00:46:51.083 --> 00:46:51.704
And what's cool with this is

00:46:51.724 --> 00:46:52.545
everyone's held accountable.

00:46:52.784 --> 00:46:54.505
So regardless if you're just

00:46:54.565 --> 00:46:55.806
taking the calls or making them,

00:46:56.327 --> 00:46:57.306
both people get a call

00:46:57.367 --> 00:46:58.947
because both people have to

00:46:58.987 --> 00:47:00.528
be held accountable for a conversation.

00:47:00.969 --> 00:47:02.050
I've seen too often people

00:47:02.090 --> 00:47:04.351
jump from a LinkedIn conversation, right?

00:47:04.371 --> 00:47:05.452
They're messaging back and forth,

00:47:05.492 --> 00:47:06.572
they jump on a Zoom meeting

00:47:07.313 --> 00:47:08.313
and then it turns ugly,

00:47:08.353 --> 00:47:10.634
but no one really knows, right?

00:47:10.673 --> 00:47:11.894
Like you go out there

00:47:11.914 --> 00:47:13.635
soliciting and soliciting on LinkedIn,

00:47:14.331 --> 00:47:15.371
And be really good at it.

00:47:15.572 --> 00:47:16.012
You know that.

00:47:16.353 --> 00:47:17.092
There's a lot of people that

00:47:17.112 --> 00:47:18.353
don't post at all on LinkedIn.

00:47:18.753 --> 00:47:20.213
They're just really good at the copy,

00:47:20.233 --> 00:47:21.574
sending direct messages to people.

00:47:21.974 --> 00:47:23.735
They generate a lot of meetings.

00:47:23.775 --> 00:47:25.155
And then, unfortunately,

00:47:25.175 --> 00:47:27.577
it's law of large numbers.

00:47:27.777 --> 00:47:29.538
They could sell, sell, sell all they want,

00:47:30.038 --> 00:47:31.318
get some transactions in there,

00:47:31.778 --> 00:47:33.059
and they don't even have

00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:34.039
public reviews for some of

00:47:34.059 --> 00:47:34.960
the services that they sell.

00:47:35.648 --> 00:47:36.369
not held accountable.

00:47:36.389 --> 00:47:38.793
What's awesome about owl is eventually,

00:47:38.813 --> 00:47:39.353
you know,

00:47:39.653 --> 00:47:40.735
somebody is going to catch on

00:47:40.755 --> 00:47:42.677
and start leaving like one star review.

00:47:43.219 --> 00:47:43.880
And then all of a sudden,

00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:44.579
like there'll be a real

00:47:44.641 --> 00:47:46.902
comment on your profile that this person,

00:47:47.563 --> 00:47:47.945
you know, uh,

00:47:48.585 --> 00:47:50.447
was really not professional

00:47:50.568 --> 00:47:51.929
on a phone call with me was

00:47:51.949 --> 00:47:53.391
saying inappropriate things, uh,

00:47:53.791 --> 00:47:55.875
And pretty much then others, you know,

00:47:55.894 --> 00:47:57.916
can can see that comment and be like, OK,

00:47:58.237 --> 00:47:59.259
see if it happens to me as well.

00:47:59.438 --> 00:48:00.721
And over time, you know,

00:48:00.740 --> 00:48:02.322
it just it won't it will

00:48:02.503 --> 00:48:03.623
just damage their reputation.

00:48:03.884 --> 00:48:05.266
So that's why we say we see

00:48:05.286 --> 00:48:06.947
Yahoo as like the LinkedIn on steroids,

00:48:07.369 --> 00:48:07.909
LinkedIn 2.0,

00:48:07.909 --> 00:48:09.010
because LinkedIn hasn't

00:48:09.050 --> 00:48:10.833
moved that much in the last 15 years.

00:48:12.742 --> 00:48:13.983
Of course, Microsoft bought them,

00:48:14.023 --> 00:48:15.722
and they have scaled, though.

00:48:15.762 --> 00:48:17.164
I think last I heard,

00:48:17.184 --> 00:48:18.965
they hit a billion users.

00:48:19.644 --> 00:48:20.626
So everyone can make fun of

00:48:20.646 --> 00:48:21.445
them all they want,

00:48:21.485 --> 00:48:22.927
but there's still growth there,

00:48:23.686 --> 00:48:24.648
and there's not many other

00:48:24.887 --> 00:48:27.268
platforms that have been

00:48:27.329 --> 00:48:28.289
able to even come close to

00:48:28.309 --> 00:48:28.869
competing with them,

00:48:29.190 --> 00:48:31.030
because they're different

00:48:31.050 --> 00:48:32.731
than your Instagram and TikTok,

00:48:32.751 --> 00:48:33.931
for example.

00:48:33.972 --> 00:48:34.711
TikTok, of course,

00:48:34.731 --> 00:48:35.213
is taking a lot of the

00:48:35.253 --> 00:48:38.034
share off of Instagram and Facebook,

00:48:38.193 --> 00:48:39.094
but LinkedIn's kind of like

00:48:39.114 --> 00:48:40.114
that little silent one that

00:48:41.101 --> 00:48:42.501
That keeps on going and going.

00:48:43.262 --> 00:48:44.123
So, Ellie,

00:48:44.163 --> 00:48:45.164
I think this is the part of the show.

00:48:45.184 --> 00:48:46.063
It's your favorite part.

00:48:46.164 --> 00:48:46.784
What part is it?

00:48:47.385 --> 00:48:48.425
That time.

00:48:48.445 --> 00:48:50.206
Oh, does he know about that time?

00:48:50.527 --> 00:48:50.746
No.

00:48:50.947 --> 00:48:52.447
You hate it from now?

00:48:52.487 --> 00:48:53.548
He doesn't know about Caesar.

00:48:53.568 --> 00:48:54.789
Something that that we love

00:48:54.809 --> 00:48:56.690
doing is not sharing with

00:48:56.751 --> 00:48:58.431
our guests about this

00:48:58.452 --> 00:48:59.112
segment of the show.

00:48:59.932 --> 00:49:01.474
The segment show where we have some fun.

00:49:01.954 --> 00:49:03.034
We're going to place a bet with you.

00:49:03.655 --> 00:49:03.896
Right.

00:49:04.016 --> 00:49:04.996
So the bet, you know,

00:49:05.177 --> 00:49:06.197
you're able to wager something.

00:49:06.237 --> 00:49:07.378
We're able to wager something.

00:49:08.311 --> 00:49:09.532
And at the end of the bet,

00:49:09.733 --> 00:49:11.293
whoever loses has to pay up, of course.

00:49:11.634 --> 00:49:12.594
And you're from Brooklyn.

00:49:13.155 --> 00:49:15.076
You're a guy that pays his debts,

00:49:15.115 --> 00:49:15.556
I believe.

00:49:15.775 --> 00:49:16.036
Right.

00:49:16.056 --> 00:49:16.677
You're not one of those

00:49:16.697 --> 00:49:18.036
people that like I lost.

00:49:18.077 --> 00:49:18.478
Screw it.

00:49:19.117 --> 00:49:20.137
No, I know it.

00:49:20.318 --> 00:49:21.298
New Yorkers don't do that shit.

00:49:21.918 --> 00:49:24.260
So part of this bet is utilizing owl,

00:49:24.300 --> 00:49:24.601
of course.

00:49:25.420 --> 00:49:26.202
So, Ellie,

00:49:26.222 --> 00:49:28.083
do you have an idea of what we

00:49:28.123 --> 00:49:28.643
want to bet him?

00:49:29.590 --> 00:49:30.652
And what we want to give him

00:49:30.672 --> 00:49:33.494
in return if he hits that.

00:49:33.974 --> 00:49:36.556
I think because I know he is a CEO,

00:49:36.577 --> 00:49:37.056
a busy guy,

00:49:37.077 --> 00:49:39.159
I think we should kind of do

00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:40.539
what we did similarly to

00:49:40.579 --> 00:49:43.202
last week where I don't

00:49:43.222 --> 00:49:44.782
know what your schedule is on Mondays,

00:49:45.003 --> 00:49:47.706
but basically we have,

00:49:47.786 --> 00:49:49.646
as Jason was sort of explaining,

00:49:49.686 --> 00:49:51.027
we have mentorship Monday,

00:49:51.108 --> 00:49:52.889
every Monday where a lot of

00:49:53.710 --> 00:49:56.612
some of our CEOs,

00:49:56.952 --> 00:49:58.914
busier people on the app will,

00:49:59.699 --> 00:50:01.900
lower their price to a dollar, um,

00:50:03.101 --> 00:50:04.023
and make themselves

00:50:04.143 --> 00:50:05.123
available on Monday

00:50:05.184 --> 00:50:08.927
mornings to give advice to people, mentor,

00:50:09.146 --> 00:50:10.387
you know, mentorship, essentially.

00:50:10.407 --> 00:50:11.809
Share knowledge, share knowledge.

00:50:11.829 --> 00:50:12.789
Yeah.

00:50:13.610 --> 00:50:13.650
Um,

00:50:13.670 --> 00:50:18.414
so I think that you should get on the app,

00:50:18.474 --> 00:50:21.916
go live on Monday and take

00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:24.679
Let's see.

00:50:24.998 --> 00:50:25.820
Well, just the amount of time.

00:50:26.139 --> 00:50:26.559
I know.

00:50:26.579 --> 00:50:27.300
We can't control the amount

00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:27.940
of inbound calls.

00:50:27.981 --> 00:50:28.681
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:28.740 --> 00:50:30.101
So I guess go live on the

00:50:30.260 --> 00:50:32.862
app for like two hours.

00:50:33.983 --> 00:50:34.302
Two hours.

00:50:34.382 --> 00:50:34.922
And it could be,

00:50:35.083 --> 00:50:35.684
you could be sitting at

00:50:35.704 --> 00:50:36.583
your couch six o'clock to

00:50:36.623 --> 00:50:37.664
eight o'clock at night, right?

00:50:37.684 --> 00:50:39.085
Because the calls aren't always coming in.

00:50:39.284 --> 00:50:39.405
Right.

00:50:39.706 --> 00:50:39.947
Right.

00:50:39.967 --> 00:50:41.409
So in a two hour span,

00:50:41.449 --> 00:50:44.431
you might only field four calls, you know,

00:50:44.492 --> 00:50:45.592
and you could judge if you

00:50:45.632 --> 00:50:47.074
want to stay on for 10 minutes each.

00:50:47.675 --> 00:50:48.695
Or there could be ones like

00:50:48.735 --> 00:50:49.697
Cello that happen to be

00:50:49.737 --> 00:50:51.599
like 45 minute calls and

00:50:51.938 --> 00:50:52.418
you're loving the

00:50:52.478 --> 00:50:53.559
conversation because that

00:50:54.001 --> 00:50:55.181
that does happen often.

00:50:55.262 --> 00:50:55.963
Our guest last week,

00:50:56.003 --> 00:50:57.844
I think she took about four calls,

00:50:57.864 --> 00:50:58.585
but one of the calls was

00:50:58.625 --> 00:50:59.726
the CEO Grant watch.

00:50:59.766 --> 00:51:01.168
So you never know who's going to hit you.

00:51:01.228 --> 00:51:02.829
You know, Grant watch is calling, you know,

00:51:02.849 --> 00:51:03.429
you're not worried about

00:51:03.469 --> 00:51:04.351
limiting it to 10 minutes.

00:51:04.987 --> 00:51:06.007
Nothing to do with money has

00:51:06.027 --> 00:51:06.748
to do with the relationship

00:51:06.768 --> 00:51:07.688
that you're building with

00:51:07.728 --> 00:51:08.889
that individual on the other end.

00:51:08.929 --> 00:51:09.110
Yeah.

00:51:09.210 --> 00:51:11.050
I think go live for two hours.

00:51:11.150 --> 00:51:13.012
And then I would also say

00:51:13.092 --> 00:51:14.434
just make two calls.

00:51:14.514 --> 00:51:15.675
Cause I want you to also

00:51:15.755 --> 00:51:18.255
experience like the other end of you,

00:51:18.315 --> 00:51:19.476
maybe making connections

00:51:19.536 --> 00:51:20.197
and getting advice.

00:51:20.237 --> 00:51:21.579
It doesn't have to be during that time,

00:51:21.659 --> 00:51:23.320
but you have a week to

00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:24.460
complete the challenge.

00:51:25.822 --> 00:51:27.463
Um, well, he has to do that on Monday.

00:51:27.503 --> 00:51:28.182
Cause yeah, yeah.

00:51:28.222 --> 00:51:31.105
Well, Monday and then two calls, two calls,

00:51:31.164 --> 00:51:32.206
regardless, like,

00:51:32.644 --> 00:51:32.925
OK,

00:51:32.945 --> 00:51:35.365
so that's the wager that we are wagering.

00:51:36.226 --> 00:51:38.626
And pretty much if you win,

00:51:38.646 --> 00:51:39.746
if you hit that

00:51:39.786 --> 00:51:40.987
accomplishment and you do it,

00:51:41.807 --> 00:51:43.268
then you get something from us.

00:51:43.708 --> 00:51:43.927
Right.

00:51:44.427 --> 00:51:46.248
You travel from Tampa Bay down here.

00:51:46.268 --> 00:51:47.949
You're a big relationship guy.

00:51:48.268 --> 00:51:48.528
Right.

00:51:48.949 --> 00:51:50.250
We have over 350 guests that

00:51:50.269 --> 00:51:51.050
we've interviewed between

00:51:51.230 --> 00:51:51.969
both of our podcasts.

00:51:53.451 --> 00:51:54.530
It could be, you know,

00:51:54.570 --> 00:51:56.331
me introducing you to three

00:51:56.391 --> 00:51:57.291
people on my list.

00:51:57.452 --> 00:51:59.032
You could go down my list of

00:51:59.052 --> 00:52:00.713
past podcast guests, say who,

00:52:00.952 --> 00:52:01.813
and I can make an intro.

00:52:02.333 --> 00:52:03.054
You know, that could be,

00:52:03.293 --> 00:52:04.373
and I'm just saying that could be it.

00:52:05.014 --> 00:52:06.735
It could be to use this studio.

00:52:06.896 --> 00:52:07.755
Next time you're down here,

00:52:08.396 --> 00:52:10.097
you have one of your clients and you say,

00:52:10.117 --> 00:52:10.677
Hey, Jason,

00:52:11.498 --> 00:52:12.378
I want to interview one of my

00:52:12.418 --> 00:52:14.320
clients in your studio.

00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:16.001
And we'll put, you know, the image of,

00:52:16.380 --> 00:52:16.621
you know,

00:52:16.902 --> 00:52:18.001
either your brand or their brand

00:52:18.041 --> 00:52:19.083
up on this TV, of course.

00:52:19.903 --> 00:52:21.503
And you use the studio for an hour, right.

00:52:21.523 --> 00:52:22.264
And do a quick interview.

00:52:22.905 --> 00:52:23.105
Right.

00:52:23.125 --> 00:52:23.766
I don't know.

00:52:23.786 --> 00:52:24.445
We're just, we're saying,

00:52:24.485 --> 00:52:25.646
or anything you've seen, you know,

00:52:26.166 --> 00:52:27.728
you've kind of met us today, you know,

00:52:27.788 --> 00:52:28.188
and there could be

00:52:28.228 --> 00:52:29.228
something else that comes to mind,

00:52:29.809 --> 00:52:30.889
you know, that, that you,

00:52:31.222 --> 00:52:33.143
think of, but that's what we would wager.

00:52:33.724 --> 00:52:33.945
Yeah.

00:52:34.344 --> 00:52:35.726
Well, game.

00:52:36.347 --> 00:52:36.726
Okay.

00:52:36.867 --> 00:52:37.628
So which one do you want?

00:52:37.648 --> 00:52:39.048
Do you know what you would want from us?

00:52:40.030 --> 00:52:41.110
I would have to think on it.

00:52:41.130 --> 00:52:42.090
I would have to think on it.

00:52:42.130 --> 00:52:42.972
So I would say, yeah,

00:52:43.032 --> 00:52:45.554
maybe a soft introduction

00:52:45.614 --> 00:52:46.914
would be cool or maybe even

00:52:46.934 --> 00:52:47.675
change the space.

00:52:47.695 --> 00:52:48.476
So let me think on it.

00:52:48.615 --> 00:52:49.115
Okay.

00:52:49.137 --> 00:52:50.538
We'll open up both of those.

00:52:50.577 --> 00:52:50.998
That's fine.

00:52:51.425 --> 00:52:52.025
Absolutely.

00:52:52.246 --> 00:52:53.387
But I would say,

00:52:53.489 --> 00:52:56.132
let me execute first and get that done.

00:52:56.432 --> 00:52:57.695
And then we can discuss from there.

00:52:57.755 --> 00:52:59.177
But I think that's awesome.

00:52:59.197 --> 00:52:59.858
And now here's the other

00:52:59.878 --> 00:53:00.500
half of the wager.

00:53:00.940 --> 00:53:03.704
Ellie, what happens if he loses?

00:53:03.744 --> 00:53:04.166
What do we get?

00:53:05.385 --> 00:53:08.789
we get a free consultation

00:53:08.829 --> 00:53:12.231
session with you or like a, just maybe.

00:53:12.251 --> 00:53:12.992
Okay.

00:53:14.213 --> 00:53:15.054
Well still,

00:53:15.295 --> 00:53:17.277
I think that would be a value

00:53:17.317 --> 00:53:19.278
to us or maybe a promise to

00:53:19.298 --> 00:53:20.480
get us in a publication.

00:53:20.500 --> 00:53:20.579
Yeah.

00:53:20.740 --> 00:53:21.661
An intro to a,

00:53:21.722 --> 00:53:23.023
someone who runs an editorial down here.

00:53:23.103 --> 00:53:23.322
Yeah.

00:53:23.382 --> 00:53:23.583
Right.

00:53:23.864 --> 00:53:23.943
Um,

00:53:25.338 --> 00:53:26.820
We know a lot of the people, but honestly,

00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:27.400
sometimes we just don't

00:53:27.420 --> 00:53:28.721
take the time to actually reach out,

00:53:28.780 --> 00:53:29.400
if that makes sense.

00:53:29.641 --> 00:53:30.342
Sometimes we're like doing a

00:53:30.382 --> 00:53:31.282
gazillion things and

00:53:31.322 --> 00:53:32.103
sometimes someone in your

00:53:32.123 --> 00:53:33.143
shoes is going to be quick.

00:53:33.443 --> 00:53:34.525
Text message them to us.

00:53:35.125 --> 00:53:37.005
Be like, hey, this is a great story.

00:53:37.385 --> 00:53:37.947
You're building this

00:53:37.967 --> 00:53:39.067
platform that's got such

00:53:39.106 --> 00:53:40.547
potential to make such

00:53:40.608 --> 00:53:41.929
major impact to help people

00:53:41.969 --> 00:53:42.710
communicate better.

00:53:43.150 --> 00:53:44.130
It eliminates so much

00:53:44.210 --> 00:53:45.510
friction and there's real

00:53:45.530 --> 00:53:47.391
success stories on social

00:53:47.411 --> 00:53:48.353
media like LinkedIn.

00:53:49.172 --> 00:53:49.853
And, you know,

00:53:49.873 --> 00:53:50.713
I think you should do an

00:53:50.753 --> 00:53:52.695
interview around the founder,

00:53:52.735 --> 00:53:53.235
for example.

00:53:53.896 --> 00:53:54.936
You know, something along those lines.

00:53:55.233 --> 00:53:55.693
There's no problem.

00:53:55.713 --> 00:53:56.713
Do you have a press kit already?

00:53:57.014 --> 00:53:57.255
Oh, yeah.

00:53:57.275 --> 00:53:57.594
All right.

00:53:57.735 --> 00:53:58.074
We've done it.

00:53:58.315 --> 00:53:59.096
I just need a press kit.

00:53:59.496 --> 00:53:59.896
Okay.

00:54:00.838 --> 00:54:01.358
Sounds good.

00:54:01.438 --> 00:54:01.757
All right.

00:54:01.778 --> 00:54:01.998
Deal.

00:54:02.358 --> 00:54:02.898
That's a deal.

00:54:02.918 --> 00:54:03.199
Yes, sir.

00:54:03.219 --> 00:54:03.880
We got a deal.

00:54:04.460 --> 00:54:05.061
Yes, ma'am.

00:54:05.081 --> 00:54:05.621
Okay.

00:54:05.661 --> 00:54:07.143
So for everybody listening out there,

00:54:07.202 --> 00:54:08.264
if they want to get in touch with you,

00:54:08.304 --> 00:54:08.583
of course,

00:54:08.603 --> 00:54:09.324
they can reach out to you

00:54:09.344 --> 00:54:10.146
directly on OWL.

00:54:10.666 --> 00:54:11.847
His social profiles are

00:54:11.887 --> 00:54:12.648
listed there as well.

00:54:12.688 --> 00:54:14.048
But what are some of your social profiles?

00:54:14.228 --> 00:54:15.090
So that way everyone out

00:54:15.110 --> 00:54:16.831
there can go ahead and connect with you.

00:54:16.971 --> 00:54:17.472
Or website.

00:54:17.512 --> 00:54:17.851
Yeah, man.

00:54:18.362 --> 00:54:21.365
Website omnipublic.global or

00:54:22.726 --> 00:54:25.471
the most active base I have is Instagram.

00:54:25.871 --> 00:54:28.253
So you can shoot me a DM on IG.

00:54:28.954 --> 00:54:30.757
And also the other most

00:54:30.936 --> 00:54:32.518
active platform is LinkedIn.

00:54:32.759 --> 00:54:33.981
So feel free to reach out.

00:54:34.021 --> 00:54:36.623
Cesar R. Hernandez on LinkedIn.

00:54:37.025 --> 00:54:37.704
So we're going to change

00:54:37.744 --> 00:54:38.465
that because his most

00:54:38.606 --> 00:54:39.965
active platform is going to be owl,

00:54:39.985 --> 00:54:40.306
of course,

00:54:40.346 --> 00:54:41.387
because he's always driving

00:54:41.427 --> 00:54:42.887
from Tampa down to South Florida.

00:54:43.306 --> 00:54:43.987
He's been in the car,

00:54:44.007 --> 00:54:44.967
he's in the car for three,

00:54:45.007 --> 00:54:46.088
four hours at a time.

00:54:46.148 --> 00:54:46.429
It's like,

00:54:46.829 --> 00:54:47.969
what do you currently do in all

00:54:47.989 --> 00:54:48.409
seriousness?

00:54:48.469 --> 00:54:49.349
What do you do in those three,

00:54:49.369 --> 00:54:50.050
four hour drives?

00:54:51.791 --> 00:54:53.411
So you listen to podcasts.

00:54:54.052 --> 00:54:56.271
I listen to podcasts.

00:54:56.873 --> 00:54:57.512
I, um,

00:54:58.353 --> 00:54:59.753
I also go back and listen to my

00:54:59.813 --> 00:55:02.175
clients on podcasts and how they do.

00:55:02.375 --> 00:55:02.675
Right.

00:55:03.590 --> 00:55:04.992
Like on the way down here,

00:55:05.012 --> 00:55:05.911
one of our clients, Eric,

00:55:05.992 --> 00:55:07.431
was on with Gary Cardone.

00:55:07.472 --> 00:55:08.253
So I was just listening for

00:55:08.293 --> 00:55:09.353
that hour podcast,

00:55:09.753 --> 00:55:11.293
listening to podcasters

00:55:11.353 --> 00:55:13.134
that I want a relationship with.

00:55:13.373 --> 00:55:13.675
Right.

00:55:14.255 --> 00:55:15.735
Looking at their styles.

00:55:15.835 --> 00:55:15.994
Like,

00:55:16.034 --> 00:55:18.496
I think the best in the game for me

00:55:18.596 --> 00:55:19.876
right now is Andrew Schultz

00:55:19.896 --> 00:55:20.697
from Andrew Schultz.

00:55:20.757 --> 00:55:22.257
I think he's the best in

00:55:22.577 --> 00:55:23.717
interviewing style.

00:55:24.518 --> 00:55:26.278
And he's probably going to be.

00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:27.739
My opinion,

00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:28.579
he's going to probably be

00:55:28.619 --> 00:55:30.242
bigger than Joe Rogan at some point,

00:55:30.661 --> 00:55:31.523
just the way that he's

00:55:31.663 --> 00:55:33.204
carrying himself and what he's doing.

00:55:34.425 --> 00:55:36.568
And so I'm intrigued in media.

00:55:36.628 --> 00:55:37.608
So I'm always looking at new

00:55:37.648 --> 00:55:39.230
media versus legacy media.

00:55:39.670 --> 00:55:40.911
And I'm always trying to

00:55:41.893 --> 00:55:42.713
just educate myself.

00:55:42.773 --> 00:55:43.353
So it's interesting you

00:55:43.373 --> 00:55:44.835
bring up that that's what you in the car,

00:55:44.856 --> 00:55:45.757
because I would always do

00:55:45.797 --> 00:55:46.838
that in my car rides.

00:55:47.237 --> 00:55:49.159
And eventually I'd get to my office.

00:55:49.918 --> 00:55:51.858
After listening to like a podcast for 30,

00:55:51.858 --> 00:55:52.079
40 minutes,

00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:52.719
I want to call the other

00:55:52.739 --> 00:55:53.398
person on the other end.

00:55:53.418 --> 00:55:55.059
I'm like, I got to call this individual.

00:55:55.179 --> 00:55:55.579
And I was like,

00:55:55.619 --> 00:55:56.219
I can't get through to them.

00:55:56.639 --> 00:55:58.840
I DM them, I message them and nothing,

00:55:59.360 --> 00:55:59.501
right?

00:55:59.561 --> 00:56:00.280
Or I'd want them to even

00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:01.242
come on my podcast.

00:56:01.262 --> 00:56:01.641
But it's like,

00:56:02.101 --> 00:56:03.643
there's some turbulence when

00:56:03.663 --> 00:56:04.882
you have a decent size following.

00:56:05.143 --> 00:56:05.882
They get so many darn

00:56:05.902 --> 00:56:07.324
messages and they can't

00:56:07.344 --> 00:56:09.583
determine who I am versus

00:56:09.603 --> 00:56:10.525
the next person over.

00:56:11.164 --> 00:56:12.304
And I'm sitting there like, hey,

00:56:12.344 --> 00:56:14.085
this person would be a perfect fit to...

00:56:14.646 --> 00:56:15.606
connect with us over at the

00:56:15.646 --> 00:56:16.807
Florida Atlantic university

00:56:16.847 --> 00:56:18.250
and come into the shrimp tank, meet,

00:56:18.889 --> 00:56:19.130
you know,

00:56:19.190 --> 00:56:20.532
the local entrepreneurs over the

00:56:20.552 --> 00:56:21.693
FAU tech runway.

00:56:21.713 --> 00:56:22.353
And I'm sitting here like,

00:56:22.393 --> 00:56:23.514
they won't even answer my DM.

00:56:23.534 --> 00:56:24.074
And I just listened to the

00:56:24.094 --> 00:56:24.996
whole show for an hour.

00:56:25.016 --> 00:56:26.456
I'm like, there's gotta be a better way.

00:56:26.956 --> 00:56:28.818
If that individual in Alpaca said, Hey,

00:56:29.018 --> 00:56:30.159
you could call me for 50

00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:31.041
bucks for 10 minutes.

00:56:31.081 --> 00:56:31.581
They instantly.

00:56:31.601 --> 00:56:32.541
There is a better way now.

00:56:32.581 --> 00:56:33.182
Yeah, there is.

00:56:33.463 --> 00:56:35.005
So actually that's why I was invented.

00:56:35.244 --> 00:56:35.445
I mean,

00:56:35.465 --> 00:56:36.806
being a podcaster all the time in the car,

00:56:36.846 --> 00:56:37.106
I'm like,

00:56:37.606 --> 00:56:38.568
there's gotta be a better way to

00:56:38.608 --> 00:56:40.489
just freaking get through to people and

00:56:41.090 --> 00:56:42.911
and uh just open up you know

00:56:42.971 --> 00:56:44.090
just the lines with one

00:56:44.150 --> 00:56:45.032
another so that way if

00:56:45.072 --> 00:56:45.751
you're in the car day in

00:56:45.771 --> 00:56:46.731
the morning I'm in the car

00:56:46.751 --> 00:56:47.813
in the morning sometimes

00:56:47.833 --> 00:56:48.813
we're just going to about

00:56:48.833 --> 00:56:49.873
business there's nothing to

00:56:49.893 --> 00:56:50.713
the money just knowing that

00:56:51.054 --> 00:56:51.574
we're having to be in the

00:56:51.594 --> 00:56:52.494
car together at the same

00:56:52.514 --> 00:56:53.855
exact time and that's what

00:56:53.875 --> 00:56:54.795
happens on how you just

00:56:55.074 --> 00:56:56.496
forge meaningful relationships

00:56:57.135 --> 00:56:58.076
by connecting with people

00:56:58.315 --> 00:56:58.697
and you're going to,

00:56:58.717 --> 00:56:59.476
you're going to be awesome

00:56:59.496 --> 00:57:00.177
at it because you're,

00:57:00.237 --> 00:57:00.836
you're always in the car

00:57:00.856 --> 00:57:02.637
driving and you know,

00:57:02.697 --> 00:57:03.777
it's like a no brainer.

00:57:03.898 --> 00:57:04.298
It's like, Hey,

00:57:04.318 --> 00:57:05.099
I see these individuals

00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:06.818
like Chella online and you're like,

00:57:06.858 --> 00:57:07.420
let me call her.

00:57:07.699 --> 00:57:10.121
She's a dollar, $5, whatever it might be.

00:57:10.141 --> 00:57:11.721
So it just opens up opportunities.

00:57:12.181 --> 00:57:13.282
You know what to do with opportunities.

00:57:13.322 --> 00:57:14.081
Of course, some people,

00:57:14.202 --> 00:57:15.682
unfortunately they call it

00:57:15.722 --> 00:57:17.103
a call and they don't, they don't really,

00:57:17.402 --> 00:57:18.764
you know, see around the corner with,

00:57:18.923 --> 00:57:20.344
with a call to action or a

00:57:20.384 --> 00:57:21.204
way to collaborate.

00:57:21.465 --> 00:57:22.565
And you, of course, you know,

00:57:23.358 --> 00:57:23.539
you know,

00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:24.559
know how to collaborate with folks.

00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:25.599
That's what you do for a business.

00:57:25.619 --> 00:57:26.360
Well, thank you, Cesar,

00:57:27.041 --> 00:57:27.882
coming out here on the owl

00:57:27.922 --> 00:57:29.402
podcast and everybody listening in.

00:57:29.443 --> 00:57:31.503
We'll be back next Wednesday

00:57:31.543 --> 00:57:33.324
or Thursday back live on the show.

00:57:33.364 --> 00:57:34.286
So just follow our Instagram

00:57:34.306 --> 00:57:35.085
account at owl app.

00:57:35.405 --> 00:57:36.286
We'll post our next guest.

00:57:36.467 --> 00:57:36.726
Take care.

00:57:37.827 --> 00:57:38.128
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